From: Gregor Zattler <telegraph@gmx.net>
To: "Ihor Radchenko" <yantar92@posteo.net>,
"Rudolf Adamkovič" <salutis@me.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Case insensitivity of simple [[links]]
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 22:10:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jzgbnefn.fsf@no.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sf6dbmrp.fsf@localhost>
Hi Ihor, Rudolf,
* Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> [2023-10-14; 09:01 GMT]:
> Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> writes:
>
>>> What about [[Link][link]]?
>>
>> That makes Org documents hard to read in *plain text*, that is without
>> the "descriptive links" fontification. Here is my note again, compare:
>>
>> EXAMPLE 1: Hard-to-read, unhelpful markup:
>>
>> The set of [[Cellular membrane][cellular membrane]]-bound
>> [[Organelle][organelle]]s inside of the [[Eukaryotic cell][eukaryotic
>> cell]] that work together on the synthesis and distribution of
>> [[Protein][protein]]s and [[Lipid][lipid]]s.
>>
>> EXAMPLE 2: Lightweight, helpful markup:
>>
>> The set of [[cellular membrane]]-bound [[organelle]]s inside of the
>> [[eukaryotic cell]] that work together on the synthesis and
>> distribution of [[protein]]s and [[lipid]]s.
>
> Note that there is generally no guarantee that [[name]] link will be
> exported as "name" by any particular backend. Your workaround with
> num:nil is just a workaround that may or may not work in future.
actually this workaround does /not/ work
around if [link] does not point to a
heading but to a direct target <<link>>,
which is my usage scenario.
I asked in [1] for exporting [[link]] to
be exported (at least in HTML, PDF, ODT,
IMHO in any case) to a link rendered as
"link" not as a number. In case of a
numbered heading/object it should render
as the heading/object, e.g. "5. link" if
the heading/object is the fifth.
My reasoning is similar to Rudolfs plea
for case-insensitive links: typing
[[link]] is so much easier and better to
read, than my workaround [[link][link]],
which renders as "link" (at least in
HTML export).
As a side note: ASCII export might be
tricky, though. ATM this:
#+LANGUAGE: en
These are three links: [[cat]], [[flower]], [[heast][heast]].
- <<cat>> Cat :: An animal.
- <<flower>> Flower :: a plant.
- <<heast>> Heast :: We don't know, used for baking and brewing.
exports as UTF text to:
These are three links: 1, 2, [heast].
Cat
An animal.
Flower
a plant.
Heast
We don't know, used for baking and brewing.
[heast] Unknown reference
Which is not that helpful.
Thinking about it, it might be
helpful, if there was an option to
export "<<target>>" as "target" (in
all export backends).
Regards, Gregor
[1] https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87plq3nslb.fsf@no.lan/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-20 20:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-23 0:45 Case insensitivity of simple [[links]] Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-09-23 10:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-24 14:46 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-09-26 10:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-27 8:35 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-10-05 13:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-06 10:43 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-10-14 9:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-16 20:28 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-10-17 10:49 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-19 10:30 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-10-20 9:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-21 11:40 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-10-21 13:23 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-09 12:17 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-20 13:51 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-08-20 20:10 ` Gregor Zattler [this message]
2024-10-19 13:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
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