* [org-beamer] \alert
@ 2010-01-24 19:10 Sven Bretfeld
2010-01-25 10:58 ` Eric S Fraga
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sven Bretfeld @ 2010-01-24 19:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-org
Hi
Is there any Symbol in org-beamer for \alert{Text}? In presentations
\alert is recommended instead of italics. We could even think of
translating text enclosed in slashes / ... / to \alert{} by default in
the beamer class.
Anyway, thanks to all developers for this very useful new addon.
Greetings
Sven
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread* Re: [org-beamer] \alert 2010-01-24 19:10 [org-beamer] \alert Sven Bretfeld @ 2010-01-25 10:58 ` Eric S Fraga 2010-01-25 16:55 ` Sven Bretfeld 2010-01-26 15:06 ` Sébastien Vauban 0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Eric S Fraga @ 2010-01-25 10:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: org-mode mailing list (mistakenly sent this only to the OP... resending to list as well) At 24 Jan 2010 20:10:03 +0100, Sven Bretfeld wrote: > > Hi > > Is there any Symbol in org-beamer for \alert{Text}? In presentations > \alert is recommended instead of italics. We could even think of > translating text enclosed in slashes / ... / to \alert{} by default in > the beamer class. There was a long discussion about this back in November on this mailing list. Essentially, you can add this functionality yourself: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (setq org-emphasis-alist (quote (("*" bold "<b>" "</b>") ("/" italic "<i>" "</i>") ("_" underline "<span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">" "</span>") ("=" org-code "<code>" "</code>" verbatim) ("~" org-verbatim "<code>" "</code>" verbatim) ("+" (:strike-through t) "<del>" "</del>") ("@" org-warning "<b>" "</b>"))) org-export-latex-emphasis-alist (quote (("*" "\\textbf{%s}" nil) ("/" "\\emph{%s}" nil) ("_" "\\underline{%s}" nil) ("+" "\\texttt{%s}" nil) ("=" "\\verb=%s=" nil) ("~" "\\verb~%s~" t) ("@" "\\alert{%s}" nil))) ) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Note the last entry in each of these variables; the other elements in each are their default values. HTH, eric ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [org-beamer] \alert 2010-01-25 10:58 ` Eric S Fraga @ 2010-01-25 16:55 ` Sven Bretfeld 2010-01-26 15:06 ` Sébastien Vauban 1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Sven Bretfeld @ 2010-01-25 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eric S Fraga; +Cc: org-mode mailing list Hello Eric Eric S Fraga <ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> writes: > There was a long discussion about this back in November on this > mailing list. Oh sorry, I have missed that. > Essentially, you can add this functionality yourself: Thank you, Sven ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [org-beamer] \alert 2010-01-25 10:58 ` Eric S Fraga 2010-01-25 16:55 ` Sven Bretfeld @ 2010-01-26 15:06 ` Sébastien Vauban 2010-01-26 16:22 ` Eric S Fraga 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-01-26 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ Hi Eric and Sven, Eric S Fraga wrote: > (mistakenly sent this only to the OP... resending to list as well) > > At 24 Jan 2010 20:10:03 +0100, > Sven Bretfeld wrote: >> >> Is there any Symbol in org-beamer for \alert{Text}? In presentations \alert >> is recommended instead of italics. We could even think of translating text >> enclosed in slashes / ... / to \alert{} by default in the beamer class. > > Essentially, you can add this functionality yourself: > > (setq org-emphasis-alist (quote (("*" bold "<b>" "</b>") > ("/" italic "<i>" "</i>") > ("_" underline "<span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">" "</span>") > ("=" org-code "<code>" "</code>" verbatim) > ("~" org-verbatim "<code>" "</code>" verbatim) > ("+" (:strike-through t) "<del>" "</del>") > ("@" org-warning "<b>" "</b>"))) > org-export-latex-emphasis-alist (quote > (("*" "\\textbf{%s}" nil) > ("/" "\\emph{%s}" nil) > ("_" "\\underline{%s}" nil) > ("+" "\\texttt{%s}" nil) > ("=" "\\verb=%s=" nil) > ("~" "\\verb~%s~" t) > ("@" "\\alert{%s}" nil)))) > That's what I'm using as well, but the problem is that it's not compatible anymore with non-beamer LaTeX, the alert macro being unknown. Would there be a way to conditionally translate @...@ to alert (if beamer) or to emph (if not-beamer), so that we can still easily compile a document to one or the other LaTeX "back-end", without having to customize variables in Emacs, prior to a compilation to the other "back-end"? I must admit I do not have clear specifications on how to tell Org about such a config... Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [org-beamer] \alert 2010-01-26 15:06 ` Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-01-26 16:22 ` Eric S Fraga 2010-01-28 17:58 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Eric S Fraga @ 2010-01-26 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sébastien Vauban; +Cc: emacs-orgmode At Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:06:27 +0100, Sébastien Vauban wrote: > Eric S Fraga wrote: > > At 24 Jan 2010 20:10:03 +0100, > > Sven Bretfeld wrote: > >> > >> Is there any Symbol in org-beamer for \alert{Text}? In presentations \alert [...] > > org-export-latex-emphasis-alist (quote > > (("*" "\\textbf{%s}" nil) > > ("/" "\\emph{%s}" nil) > > ("_" "\\underline{%s}" nil) > > ("+" "\\texttt{%s}" nil) > > ("=" "\\verb=%s=" nil) > > ("~" "\\verb~%s~" t) > > ("@" "\\alert{%s}" nil)))) > > > > That's what I'm using as well, but the problem is that it's not compatible > anymore with non-beamer LaTeX, the alert macro being unknown. Very true. I've never thought about this as my presentations are for presentation only etc. However, it would definitely be nice to have a more general solution. > Would there be a way to conditionally translate @...@ to alert (if beamer) or > to emph (if not-beamer), so that we can still easily compile a document to one > or the other LaTeX "back-end", without having to customize variables in Emacs, > prior to a compilation to the other "back-end"? The alist structure doesn't allow for embedded lisp code, as far as I can tell. It would obviously be easier if this structure could be evaluated on the fly. > I must admit I do not have clear specifications on how to tell Org about such > a config... The only suggestion I can come up with would be to modify this variable using, for instance, the org-export-later-after-initial-vars-hook? eric ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [org-beamer] \alert 2010-01-26 16:22 ` Eric S Fraga @ 2010-01-28 17:58 ` Carsten Dominik 2010-01-29 9:40 ` Eric S Fraga 2010-02-03 8:31 ` Karsten Heymann 0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-01-28 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: e.fraga; +Cc: Sébastien Vauban, emacs-orgmode On Jan 26, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote: > At Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:06:27 +0100, > Sébastien Vauban wrote: >> Eric S Fraga wrote: >>> At 24 Jan 2010 20:10:03 +0100, >>> Sven Bretfeld wrote: >>>> >>>> Is there any Symbol in org-beamer for \alert{Text}? In >>>> presentations \alert > > [...] > >>> org-export-latex-emphasis-alist (quote >>> (("*" "\\textbf{%s}" nil) >>> ("/" "\\emph{%s}" nil) >>> ("_" "\\underline{%s}" nil) >>> ("+" "\\texttt{%s}" nil) >>> ("=" "\\verb=%s=" nil) >>> ("~" "\\verb~%s~" t) >>> ("@" "\\alert{%s}" nil)))) >>> >> >> That's what I'm using as well, but the problem is that it's not >> compatible >> anymore with non-beamer LaTeX, the alert macro being unknown. > > Very true. I've never thought about this as my presentations are for > presentation only etc. However, it would definitely be nice to have a > more general solution. > >> Would there be a way to conditionally translate @...@ to alert (if >> beamer) or >> to emph (if not-beamer), so that we can still easily compile a >> document to one >> or the other LaTeX "back-end", without having to customize >> variables in Emacs, >> prior to a compilation to the other "back-end"? > > The alist structure doesn't allow for embedded lisp code, as far as I > can tell. It would obviously be easier if this structure could be > evaluated on the fly. > >> I must admit I do not have clear specifications on how to tell Org >> about such >> a config... > > The only suggestion I can come up with would be to modify this > variable using, for instance, the org-export-later-after-initial- > vars-hook? Is there a LaTeX command that can figure out if it is running a beamer class? If yes, a possible solution would be to redefine \alert in LaTeX when not doing BEAMER. - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [org-beamer] \alert 2010-01-28 17:58 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2010-01-29 9:40 ` Eric S Fraga 2010-01-29 11:26 ` Tim Burt 2010-02-03 8:31 ` Karsten Heymann 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Eric S Fraga @ 2010-01-29 9:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: Sébastien Vauban, emacs-orgmode At Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:58:38 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: [...] > > Is there a LaTeX command that can figure out if it is running a beamer > class? > If yes, a possible solution would be to redefine \alert in LaTeX when > not doing BEAMER. > > - Carsten > This must be possible but my latex (and tex) programming capabilities are even worse than my elisp... :( For any LaTeX expert out there, is there an easy way to determine whether a particular macro has been defined? If so, we wouldn't even need to check for beamer, simply for \alert. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [org-beamer] \alert 2010-01-29 9:40 ` Eric S Fraga @ 2010-01-29 11:26 ` Tim Burt 2010-01-29 12:23 ` Eric S Fraga 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Tim Burt @ 2010-01-29 11:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: e.fraga; +Cc: Sébastien Vauban, emacs-orgmode, Carsten Dominik Eric S Fraga writes: > At Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:58:38 +0100, > Carsten Dominik wrote: > > [...] > > > > > Is there a LaTeX command that can figure out if it is running a beamer > > class? > > If yes, a possible solution would be to redefine \alert in LaTeX when > > not doing BEAMER. > > > > - Carsten > > > > This must be possible but my latex (and tex) programming capabilities > are even worse than my elisp... :( > > For any LaTeX expert out there, is there an easy way to determine > whether a particular macro has been defined? If so, we wouldn't even > need to check for beamer, simply for \alert. Use the \ifx<command>\undefined ... \else ... \fi construct to determine if a command already exists, and then to take action in the appropriate case. Test the example below both as-is and with the first ~\newcommand*{\thisalert}~ commented out to see the different results. : \documentclass{article} : \newcommand*{\thisalert}{Do this.} : % Test for existence of \thisalert. : % Create or modify the command accordingly. : \ifx\thisalert\undefined% : \newcommand*{\thisalert}{Do that.}% : \else% : \renewcommand*{\thisalert}{Do this differently.} : \fi : \begin{document} : : \thisalert : : \end{document} I hope this is of use, Tim > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [org-beamer] \alert 2010-01-29 11:26 ` Tim Burt @ 2010-01-29 12:23 ` Eric S Fraga 2010-01-29 15:36 ` Sébastien Vauban 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Eric S Fraga @ 2010-01-29 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: tcburt; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, n Vauban, Carsten Dominik At Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:26:21 -0500, Tim Burt wrote: > Eric S Fraga writes: > > For any LaTeX expert out there, is there an easy way to determine > > whether a particular macro has been defined? If so, we wouldn't even > > need to check for beamer, simply for \alert. > > Use the > \ifx<command>\undefined ... \else ... \fi > construct to determine if a command already exists, and then to take > action in the appropriate case. Test the example below both as-is and > with the first ~\newcommand*{\thisalert}~ commented out to see the > different results. [...] > I hope this is of use, > Tim Thanks Tim. Very helpful indeed! The following org-mode line does the job for me: #+latex_header: \ifx\alert\undefined\let\alert\textbf\fi If \alert is not defined, I have =alert= behave as =textbf=. Alternatively, something like this also works: #+latex_header: \ifx\alert\undefined\newcommand*{\alert}[1]{\textbf{#1}}\fi in case one wants more control (e.g. could also change the colour to red). eric ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [org-beamer] \alert 2010-01-29 12:23 ` Eric S Fraga @ 2010-01-29 15:36 ` Sébastien Vauban 2010-02-01 16:18 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-01-29 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ Hi Eric, Tim, Carsten and all, Eric S Fraga wrote: > At Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:26:21 -0500, Tim Burt wrote: >> Eric S Fraga writes: >>> For any LaTeX expert out there, is there an easy way to determine whether >>> a particular macro has been defined? If so, we wouldn't even need to check >>> for beamer, simply for \alert. >> >> Use the >> \ifx<command>\undefined ... \else ... \fi >> construct to determine if a command already exists, and then to take action >> in the appropriate case. Test the example below both as-is and with the >> first ~\newcommand*{\thisalert}~ commented out to see the different >> results. Thanks to all. This is great stuff... > The following org-mode line does the job for me: > > #+latex_header: \ifx\alert\undefined\let\alert\textbf\fi > > If \alert is not defined, I have =alert= behave as =textbf=. Could this somehow made part of Org-mode, so that one does not need to repeat this one-liner in every file that could be exported to pure LaTeX and/or Beamer? Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [org-beamer] \alert 2010-01-29 15:36 ` Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-02-01 16:18 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-02-01 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sébastien Vauban; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Jan 29, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Sébastien Vauban wrote: > Hi Eric, Tim, Carsten and all, > > Eric S Fraga wrote: >> At Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:26:21 -0500, Tim Burt wrote: >>> Eric S Fraga writes: >>>> For any LaTeX expert out there, is there an easy way to determine >>>> whether >>>> a particular macro has been defined? If so, we wouldn't even need >>>> to check >>>> for beamer, simply for \alert. >>> >>> Use the >>> \ifx<command>\undefined ... \else ... \fi >>> construct to determine if a command already exists, and then to >>> take action >>> in the appropriate case. Test the example below both as-is and >>> with the >>> first ~\newcommand*{\thisalert}~ commented out to see the different >>> results. > > Thanks to all. This is great stuff... > > >> The following org-mode line does the job for me: >> >> #+latex_header: \ifx\alert\undefined\let\alert\textbf\fi >> >> If \alert is not defined, I have =alert= behave as =textbf=. > > Could this somehow made part of Org-mode, so that one does not need > to repeat > this one-liner in every file that could be exported to pure LaTeX > and/or > Beamer? Yes - this is in there now. Let's see if someone complains. - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [org-beamer] \alert 2010-01-28 17:58 ` Carsten Dominik 2010-01-29 9:40 ` Eric S Fraga @ 2010-02-03 8:31 ` Karsten Heymann 2010-02-03 10:21 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Karsten Heymann @ 2010-02-03 8:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hi, i just catched up reading the org list, and I think I can contribute to this: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > Is there a LaTeX command that can figure out if it is running a beamer > class? > If yes, a possible solution would be to redefine \alert in LaTeX when > not doing BEAMER. The LaTeX Command \providecommand behaves exactly like \newcommand iff the command does not already exist, so one (untested) solution would be \providecommand{\alert}[1]{\emph{#1}} I think this would be the cleanest way, but keep in mind that the special <> beamer parameters are not supported by standard latex command creation commands. Yours Karsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [org-beamer] \alert 2010-02-03 8:31 ` Karsten Heymann @ 2010-02-03 10:21 ` Carsten Dominik 2010-02-03 22:05 ` Sven Bretfeld 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-02-03 10:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Karsten Heymann; +Cc: emacs-orgmode This is also a very nice solution, thank you, I will be using it. - Carsten On Feb 3, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Karsten Heymann wrote: > Hi, > > i just catched up reading the org list, and I think I can contribute > to > this: > > Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: >> Is there a LaTeX command that can figure out if it is running a >> beamer >> class? >> If yes, a possible solution would be to redefine \alert in LaTeX when >> not doing BEAMER. > > The LaTeX Command \providecommand behaves exactly like \newcommand iff > the command does not already exist, so one (untested) solution would > be > > \providecommand{\alert}[1]{\emph{#1}} > > I think this would be the cleanest way, but keep in mind that the > special <> beamer parameters are not supported by standard latex > command creation commands. > > Yours > Karsten > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [org-beamer] \alert 2010-02-03 10:21 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2010-02-03 22:05 ` Sven Bretfeld 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Sven Bretfeld @ 2010-02-03 22:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hi all I have been away for a week. Thanks for implementing this. Haven't tried it yet. Greetings Sven Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > This is also a very nice solution, thank you, I will be using it. > > - Carsten > > On Feb 3, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Karsten Heymann wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> i just catched up reading the org list, and I think I can contribute >> to >> this: >> >> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: >>> Is there a LaTeX command that can figure out if it is running a >>> beamer >>> class? >>> If yes, a possible solution would be to redefine \alert in LaTeX when >>> not doing BEAMER. >> >> The LaTeX Command \providecommand behaves exactly like \newcommand iff >> the command does not already exist, so one (untested) solution would >> be >> >> \providecommand{\alert}[1]{\emph{#1}} >> >> I think this would be the cleanest way, but keep in mind that the >> special <> beamer parameters are not supported by standard latex >> command creation commands. >> >> Yours >> Karsten >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > - Carsten > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Sven Bretfeld ___________________________________ Prof. Dr. Sven Bretfeld \ CEntrum für CERES \ REligionswissenschaftliche ________\_Studien__________________ Ruhr-Universität Bochum Universitätsstraße 150 D-44780 Bochum http://www.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/ceres/de/organisation/beteiligte/sven_bretfeld.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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