* [org-cite] Testing on macOS, XML file missing
@ 2021-10-01 8:56 Rudolf Adamkovič
2021-10-01 12:33 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-10-02 5:24 ` Kyle Meyer
0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Rudolf Adamkovič @ 2021-10-01 8:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi there,
I compiled Emacs from "master" (2e92f90a5d) to try the new
citations.
> ./configure --with-json
> make
> make install
(per usual, no errors)
When I try to export HTML with APA/CSL citations (C-c C-e h o),
Emacs says:
> The default CSL locale file
> /Users/salutis/src/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/etc/csl/locales-en-US.xml
> doesn’t exist or is unreadable
(I checked, and no 'etc' directory exists in 'lisp/org'.)
Expected: HTML with APA citations
Emacs configuration:
> (setq-default org-cite-global-bibliography (my/bibtex-files) ;;
> (tons of .bib files)
> org-cite-csl-styles-dir "~/")
>
> (require 'oc-csl)
Org document:
> #+title: Testing citations #+cite_export: csl apa.csl
> [cite:@manning-2009]
Notes:
- I also installed the 'citeproc' package, per "July 2021
Introducing citations!".
- When I remove "#+cite_export: csl apa.csl", exporting works but
results in no CSL/APA.
R+
--
"Contrariwise," continued Tweedledee, "if it was so, it might be;
and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's
logic." -- Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass Rudolf
Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> Studenohorská 25 84103 Bratislava
Slovakia [he/him]
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* Re: [org-cite] Testing on macOS, XML file missing
2021-10-01 8:56 [org-cite] Testing on macOS, XML file missing Rudolf Adamkovič
@ 2021-10-01 12:33 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-10-01 12:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-10-02 5:24 ` Kyle Meyer
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bruce D'Arcus @ 2021-10-01 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rudolf Adamkovič; +Cc: org-mode-email
It looks like that /etc/csl directory isn't included in the emacs source tree.
On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 4:57 AM Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I compiled Emacs from "master" (2e92f90a5d) to try the new
> citations.
>
> > ./configure --with-json
> > make
> > make install
>
> (per usual, no errors)
>
> When I try to export HTML with APA/CSL citations (C-c C-e h o),
> Emacs says:
>
> > The default CSL locale file
> > /Users/salutis/src/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/etc/csl/locales-en-US.xml
> > doesn’t exist or is unreadable
>
> (I checked, and no 'etc' directory exists in 'lisp/org'.)
>
> Expected: HTML with APA citations
>
> Emacs configuration:
>
> > (setq-default org-cite-global-bibliography (my/bibtex-files) ;;
> > (tons of .bib files)
> > org-cite-csl-styles-dir "~/")
> >
> > (require 'oc-csl)
>
> Org document:
>
> > #+title: Testing citations #+cite_export: csl apa.csl
> > [cite:@manning-2009]
>
> Notes:
>
> - I also installed the 'citeproc' package, per "July 2021
> Introducing citations!".
> - When I remove "#+cite_export: csl apa.csl", exporting works but
> results in no CSL/APA.
>
> R+
>
> --
> "Contrariwise," continued Tweedledee, "if it was so, it might be;
> and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's
> logic." -- Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass Rudolf
> Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> Studenohorská 25 84103 Bratislava
> Slovakia [he/him]
>
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* Re: [org-cite] Testing on macOS, XML file missing
2021-10-01 12:33 ` Bruce D'Arcus
@ 2021-10-01 12:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-10-02 5:46 ` Kyle Meyer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bruce D'Arcus @ 2021-10-01 12:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rudolf Adamkovič; +Cc: org-mode-email
Actually, that whole etc directory is outdated.
On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 8:33 AM Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It looks like that /etc/csl directory isn't included in the emacs source tree.
>
> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 4:57 AM Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I compiled Emacs from "master" (2e92f90a5d) to try the new
> > citations.
> >
> > > ./configure --with-json
> > > make
> > > make install
> >
> > (per usual, no errors)
> >
> > When I try to export HTML with APA/CSL citations (C-c C-e h o),
> > Emacs says:
> >
> > > The default CSL locale file
> > > /Users/salutis/src/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/etc/csl/locales-en-US.xml
> > > doesn’t exist or is unreadable
> >
> > (I checked, and no 'etc' directory exists in 'lisp/org'.)
> >
> > Expected: HTML with APA citations
> >
> > Emacs configuration:
> >
> > > (setq-default org-cite-global-bibliography (my/bibtex-files) ;;
> > > (tons of .bib files)
> > > org-cite-csl-styles-dir "~/")
> > >
> > > (require 'oc-csl)
> >
> > Org document:
> >
> > > #+title: Testing citations #+cite_export: csl apa.csl
> > > [cite:@manning-2009]
> >
> > Notes:
> >
> > - I also installed the 'citeproc' package, per "July 2021
> > Introducing citations!".
> > - When I remove "#+cite_export: csl apa.csl", exporting works but
> > results in no CSL/APA.
> >
> > R+
> >
> > --
> > "Contrariwise," continued Tweedledee, "if it was so, it might be;
> > and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's
> > logic." -- Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass Rudolf
> > Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> Studenohorská 25 84103 Bratislava
> > Slovakia [he/him]
> >
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* Re: [org-cite] Testing on macOS, XML file missing
2021-10-01 12:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus
@ 2021-10-02 5:46 ` Kyle Meyer
2021-10-02 12:52 ` Bruce D'Arcus
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Kyle Meyer @ 2021-10-02 5:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce D'Arcus; +Cc: Rudolf Adamkovič, org-mode-email
[reordering top-posting...]
Bruce D'Arcus writes:
> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 8:33 AM Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It looks like that /etc/csl directory isn't included in the emacs source tree.
> Actually, that whole etc directory is outdated.
Aside from the new etc/csl/ directory that wasn't synced, could you be
more specific about what you think is out of date between the Org repo
and Emacs repo?
Things look bit-to-bit identical to me, aside from two expected
differences: the Makefile isn't synced and Org repo has (for a long
time) kept only a portion of for schema/schemas.xml in-tree.
$ git -C org-mode-devel describe
release_9.5
$ git -C emacs describe
emacs-26.1-149535-gd505971894
$ git -C org-mode-devel ls-tree -r HEAD:etc
100644 blob ab5c98817a5b97164c057e6a1e55e8266906bf8c Makefile
100644 blob cbb0d38a2ad08ff74c39719c3e3e51dd29850a79 ORG-NEWS
100644 blob d066efa20f2304146eb544a57271952a3534ecc8 csl/chicago-author-date.csl
100644 blob a5e95dfb2fe9c72fc126cf3150bcbd7ad6be6c39 csl/locales-en-US.xml
100644 blob 5239c84cb502c3243abc35d7fd657eb640dae7fd schema/OpenDocument-schema-v1.3+libreoffice.rnc
100644 blob 2a7867998f12a0d0b32f6d96dba9cc0519e29cdd schema/OpenDocument-schema-v1.3.rnc
100644 blob 87f84d1ea87e1e0eef759fac1bd7db74ce0a704e schema/od-manifest-schema-v1.2-os.rnc
100644 blob 3e6ed7bee668bb363d10bc0ff460cd7d350f9635 schema/schemas.xml
100644 blob d0c98a3e51c079e74780d54289b09ba8ba52ac64 styles/OrgOdtContentTemplate.xml
100644 blob 1a8edee99b4ccbbb18321091a7530afee660906a styles/OrgOdtStyles.xml
100644 blob 07126fc31ba60103032e075e7cfdf81569e324c9 styles/README
$ git -C emacs rev-parse HEAD:etc/ORG-NEWS
cbb0d38a2ad08ff74c39719c3e3e51dd29850a79
$ git -C emacs rev-parse HEAD:etc/schema/OpenDocument-schema-v1.3+libreoffice.rnc
5239c84cb502c3243abc35d7fd657eb640dae7fd
$ git -C emacs rev-parse HEAD:etc/schema/schema/OpenDocument-schema-v1.3.rnc
HEAD:etc/schema/schema/OpenDocument-schema-v1.3.rnc
fatal: path 'etc/schema/schema/OpenDocument-schema-v1.3.rnc' does not exist in 'HEAD'
$ git -C emacs rev-parse HEAD:etc/schema/OpenDocument-schema-v1.3.rnc
2a7867998f12a0d0b32f6d96dba9cc0519e29cdd
$ git -C emacs rev-parse HEAD:etc/schema/od-manifest-schema-v1.2-os.rnc
87f84d1ea87e1e0eef759fac1bd7db74ce0a704e
$ git -C emacs rev-parse HEAD:etc/schema/schemas.xml
f8acb0d40ca1dcdd4720188bfed60d71749faeb3
$ git -C emacs rev-parse HEAD:etc/org/OrgOdtContentTemplate.xml
d0c98a3e51c079e74780d54289b09ba8ba52ac64
$ git -C emacs rev-parse HEAD:etc/org/OrgOdtStyles.xml
1a8edee99b4ccbbb18321091a7530afee660906a
$ git -C emacs rev-parse HEAD:etc/org/README
07126fc31ba60103032e075e7cfdf81569e324c9
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* Re: [org-cite] Testing on macOS, XML file missing
2021-10-02 5:46 ` Kyle Meyer
@ 2021-10-02 12:52 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-10-02 16:01 ` Kyle Meyer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bruce D'Arcus @ 2021-10-02 12:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kyle Meyer; +Cc: org-mode-email, Rudolf Adamkovič
On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 1:46 AM Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> wrote:
>
> [reordering top-posting...]
>
> Bruce D'Arcus writes:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 8:33 AM Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It looks like that /etc/csl directory isn't included in the emacs source tree.
>
> > Actually, that whole etc directory is outdated.
>
> Aside from the new etc/csl/ directory that wasn't synced, could you be
> more specific about what you think is out of date between the Org repo
> and Emacs repo?
Sorry; I wasn't clear.
What I meant is that etc/styles was also not synced.
Bruce
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* Re: [org-cite] Testing on macOS, XML file missing
2021-10-02 12:52 ` Bruce D'Arcus
@ 2021-10-02 16:01 ` Kyle Meyer
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Kyle Meyer @ 2021-10-02 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce D'Arcus; +Cc: org-mode-email, Rudolf Adamkovič
Bruce D'Arcus writes:
> Sorry; I wasn't clear.
>
> What I meant is that etc/styles was also not synced.
Right, some of the non-lisp files get moved around directory-wise
between the Org and Emacs repos. Just in case it didn't stick out in
the snippets from my message upstream, the same files are there on both
sides:
$ git -C org-mode ls-tree -r release_9.5:etc/styles
100644 blob d0c98a3e51c079e74780d54289b09ba8ba52ac64 OrgOdtContentTemplate.xml
100644 blob 1a8edee99b4ccbbb18321091a7530afee660906a OrgOdtStyles.xml
100644 blob 07126fc31ba60103032e075e7cfdf81569e324c9 README
$ git -C emacs show --no-patch --format="%s (%ch)" bf9ec3d91a
Update to Org 9.5 (Wed Sep 29 23:21)
$ git -C emacs ls-tree bf9ec3d91a:etc/org
100644 blob d0c98a3e51c079e74780d54289b09ba8ba52ac64 OrgOdtContentTemplate.xml
100644 blob 1a8edee99b4ccbbb18321091a7530afee660906a OrgOdtStyles.xml
100644 blob 07126fc31ba60103032e075e7cfdf81569e324c9 README
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* Re: [org-cite] Testing on macOS, XML file missing
2021-10-01 8:56 [org-cite] Testing on macOS, XML file missing Rudolf Adamkovič
2021-10-01 12:33 ` Bruce D'Arcus
@ 2021-10-02 5:24 ` Kyle Meyer
2021-10-02 12:50 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-10-02 18:52 ` Kyle Meyer
1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Kyle Meyer @ 2021-10-02 5:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rudolf Adamkovič
Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode, Bruce D'Arcus, Nicolas Goaziou
Rudolf Adamkovič writes:
> I compiled Emacs from "master" (2e92f90a5d) to try the new
> citations.
>
[...]
>
> When I try to export HTML with APA/CSL citations (C-c C-e h o),
> Emacs says:
>
>> The default CSL locale file
>> /Users/salutis/src/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/etc/csl/locales-en-US.xml
>> doesn’t exist or is unreadable
>
> (I checked, and no 'etc' directory exists in 'lisp/org'.)
Thanks for the report. Indeed I didn't check for new files outside of
lisp/, and etc/csl/ wasn't synced to Emacs. Though even if those files
were present, you would have seen the same failure due to the way things
are written on our end.
I've pushed a set of commits to the Org repo (60b178e59, 0f11a44e0, and
9cc7f8bd1) that should prepare things on our end. And I've done a local
sync to Emacs and verified that org-cite-csl--etc-dir looks to point to
the right place when running from Emacs and when installed to the
system.
Before we sync these etc/csl/ files to the Emacs repo (which hopefully
won't be a point of contention), I have a question about these files.
After a bit of digging, I traced their origin. As I say in 9cc7f8bd1
(etc/csl: Add a README in preparation for Emacs sync):
I did not add these files, but I have verified that
- etc/csl/chicago-author-date.csl is identical to
9821a884d2cbf919a064426999b05aa78e98da8d:chicago-author-date.csl
from https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles
- etc/csl/locales-en-US.xml is identical to
a2b76b20ee120979ec66cfdcfa798b36fc5a7f0b:locales-en-US.xml from
https://github.com/citation-style-language/locales
However, both of those files have newer versions.
$ git log --oneline --format="%ch | %h %s" 9821a88.. -- chicago-author-date.csl
Sun Sep 19 03:19 | ccb71844f Update chicago-author-date.csl (#5605)
Apr 26 2020 | a78997329 Chicago: Uppercase "Presentated at" if no `genre` (#4729)
Aug 13 2019 | d9852a293 Update chicago-author-date.csl and other author date variants (#4250)
Jan 3 2019 | 246ce5fdf Chicago: Correct dictionary/encyclopedia entries
May 21 2018 | 9296c8c15 Fix redundant terms (#3517)
May 13 2018 | e4db3699d update chicago-author-date.csl; close issue #3386 (#3455)
Jan 25 2018 | f601d1af5 Fix missing space before locators. (#3288)
Dec 6 2017 | 04cbd1787 Reindent/reorder
---
$ git log --oneline --format="%ch | %h %s" a2b76b2.. -- locales-en-US.xml
Dec 29 2017 | 9a4eb48 Replace some usernames by real names
Dec 29 2017 | f01d92a Drop email addresses from translator tags
Dec 29 2017 | f6fa898 Add translators from git log to the locale files.
Is there a reason to avoid updating to the latest version?
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2021-10-02 5:24 ` Kyle Meyer
@ 2021-10-02 12:50 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-10-02 15:34 ` Kyle Meyer
2021-10-02 18:52 ` Kyle Meyer
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bruce D'Arcus @ 2021-10-02 12:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kyle Meyer
Cc: Bastien, org-mode-email, Rudolf Adamkovič, Nicolas Goaziou
On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 1:24 AM Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> wrote:
> Is there a reason to avoid updating to the latest version?
No; updating them makes sense.
Bruce
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* Re: [org-cite] Testing on macOS, XML file missing
2021-10-02 5:24 ` Kyle Meyer
2021-10-02 12:50 ` Bruce D'Arcus
@ 2021-10-02 18:52 ` Kyle Meyer
2021-10-03 9:25 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Kyle Meyer @ 2021-10-02 18:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rudolf Adamkovič
Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode, Bruce D'Arcus, Nicolas Goaziou
Kyle Meyer writes:
> Rudolf Adamkovič writes:
>
>> When I try to export HTML with APA/CSL citations (C-c C-e h o),
>> Emacs says:
>>
>>> The default CSL locale file
>>> /Users/salutis/src/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/etc/csl/locales-en-US.xml
>>> doesn’t exist or is unreadable
This is hopefully resolved with bb209cd5ab (Update to Org
9.5-30-g10dc9d, 2021-10-02) in the Emacs repo.
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* Re: [org-cite] Testing on macOS, XML file missing
2021-10-02 18:52 ` Kyle Meyer
@ 2021-10-03 9:25 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Rudolf Adamkovič @ 2021-10-03 9:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kyle Meyer; +Cc: Bruce D'Arcus, Bastien, Nicolas Goaziou, emacs-orgmode
Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> writes:
> This is hopefully resolved with bb209cd5ab (Update to Org
> 9.5-30-g10dc9d, 2021-10-02) in the Emacs repo.
It works now. Thank you!
R+
--
Logic is a science of the necessary laws of thought, without which
no employment of the understanding and the reason takes place. --
Immanuel Kant, 1785 Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com>
Studenohorská 25 84103 Bratislava Slovakia [he/him]
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