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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Vladimir Nikishkin <lockywolf@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] org-contrib: org-eldoc has an autload, but is incompatible with modern emacs. [9.6.8 (release_9.6.8-3-g21171d @ /usr/share/emacs/30.0.50/lisp/org/)]
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 07:49:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mswdd97n.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ttql4u6l.fsf@laptop.lockywolf.net>

Vladimir Nikishkin <lockywolf@gmail.com> writes:

>> May you elaborate about incompatibility?
>>
>
> Yes. With org-eldoc loaded, and having a property '#+date: unpublished'
> in an org file, I am having the '*Messages*' buffer filled with
> #+begin_src elisp
> ⛔ Warning (org-element-cache): org-element--cache: Org parser error in 2015_Passwords.org.rclignore::53653. Resetting.
>  The error was: (error "Invalid search bound (wrong side of point)")
>  Backtrace:
> "  backtrace-to-string(nil)
>   org-element-at-point()

This has nothing to do with eldoc.
If you can reproduce this problem consistently, may you create a minimal
example as described in https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback ?

>> That would constitute incompatible change for the existing users.
>> Although, autoload may cause org-eldoc to be loaded for users of
>> org-contrib, who are not interested in org-eldoc.
>> What we might do as a compromise is removing the autoload cookie only
>> and leaving the (add-hook ...) to be executed upon (require 'org-eldoc).
>
> Yes, maybe that is even better. Why would one (require 'org-eldoc) with
> no intention of using it?

Fixed, on master.
https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/org-contrib/commit/6e208c87bf6ede9251c9c5733b81b004b1e44966

As for `require', it is not so simple. Things like C-h f can trigger
loading libraries. But addressing such peculiarities is beyond the level
of maintenance we can provide for org-contrib.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-20  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-20  3:51 [BUG] org-contrib: org-eldoc has an autload, but is incompatible with modern emacs. [9.6.8 (release_9.6.8-3-g21171d @ /usr/share/emacs/30.0.50/lisp/org/)] Vladimir Nikishkin
2023-10-20  7:37 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-20  7:39   ` Vladimir Nikishkin
2023-10-20  7:49     ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-11-10  1:22       ` Vladimir Nikishkin
2023-12-26  9:27         ` Vladimir Nikishkin
2023-12-26 12:12           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-26 12:13             ` Vladimir Nikishkin
2023-12-26 12:23               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-26 12:26                 ` Vladimir Nikishkin
2023-12-26 12:34                   ` Vladimir Nikishkin
2023-12-26 13:22                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-26 13:25                       ` Vladimir Nikishkin
2023-12-26 13:31                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-26 13:59                           ` Vladimir Nikishkin
2023-12-26 14:33                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-26 14:45                               ` Vladimir Nikishkin

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