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From: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>, Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>,
	Org Mode List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2018 11:29:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lgf89lro.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lgf8f93b.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Sun, 04 Mar 2018 11:06:48 +0100")

Hi Nicolas,

Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

> For the record, and as a first feedback, I totally disagree with the
> FUD (".org flexibility will bring us new problems", seriously)
> spread about the Org manual.

Maybe I used the wrong word: let's call them "challenges", not
"problems".

But I'm sure there will be some.

And that's fine.  In any case, I did not want to spread FUD and I
don't have strong opinions on this issue.

> I spent months on the Org file. If it was a pain to do
> so ("Let's test org capabilities against a giant .org file."), I think
> I would have noticed.

When I said "Let's test org capabilities against a giant .org file."
I was not just thinking about editing it, but also e.g. exporting.

Testing the .texi exporter (and maybe .html and .pdf) against this big
file will be interesting.

Testing the process of running "make pdf" while emacs will in charge
of producing a PDF file (.org => .texi => .pdf) will be interesting,
and potentially more error-prone than the current .texi=>.pdf process.

But again, that's fine.

> The difficult part was to define editing
> conventions and stick to them. This is now done, and unrelated to the
> problem at hand.

I have not read the conventions yet, and other contributors may not
have read them, so this those conventions are just a proposal for now.
Core contributors need to formally discuss them and explicitely agree.

Again, the question is: what problem are we trying to solve?

Do you agree with the one I suggested?  Do you see others?

-- 
 Bastien

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-04 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-20 14:43 [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-20 17:41 ` Achim Gratz
2018-01-20 18:15   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-20 18:36     ` Achim Gratz
2018-01-20 18:51       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-20 17:41 ` Thomas S. Dye
2018-01-22 10:51 ` Bastien Guerry
2018-01-22 13:48   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-22 15:30     ` Kaushal Modi
2018-01-22 16:02       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-22 17:00         ` Kaushal Modi
2018-01-22 17:20           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-22 17:31             ` Kaushal Modi
2018-01-22 19:52               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-23 15:19                 ` Kaushal Modi
2018-01-23 16:30                   ` Julius Dittmar
2018-01-23 16:33                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-23 16:37                     ` Kaushal Modi
2018-01-22 16:35       ` Bastien Guerry
2018-01-22 16:53         ` Kaushal Modi
2018-01-22 16:35       ` Bastien Guerry
2018-01-22 16:31     ` Bastien Guerry
2018-01-22 17:03       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-23  8:07         ` org-adapt-indentation 'content (was Re: [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core) Christian Moe
2018-03-06 19:01           ` Bastien Guerry
2018-01-22 19:04       ` [RFC] Moving "manual.org" into core Achim Gratz
2018-03-03  9:17       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-03 10:18         ` Bastien Guerry
2018-03-03 11:29           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-03 15:57             ` Bastien Guerry
2018-03-03 16:15               ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2018-03-03 19:48               ` Glenn Morris
2018-03-04  9:30                 ` Bastien Guerry
2018-01-23 20:06     ` Thomas S. Dye
2018-01-22 13:54   ` Rasmus
2018-01-22 15:23     ` Kaushal Modi
2018-01-24  8:39     ` Yasushi SHOJI
2018-01-24 11:28       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-26  8:52         ` Yasushi SHOJI
2018-01-26 10:32           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-27  8:40             ` Yasushi SHOJI
2018-01-28 15:17               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-29  2:40                 ` Yasushi SHOJI
2018-01-29 14:41                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-02-01 11:43                     ` Yasushi SHOJI
2018-02-01 12:11                       ` Yasushi SHOJI
2018-02-04  9:05                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-02-01 14:55                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-02-02  2:07                         ` Yasushi SHOJI
2018-02-04  9:40                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-02-06 14:11                             ` Yasushi SHOJI
2018-01-22 16:41   ` Thomas S. Dye
2018-01-23  8:08   ` Christian Moe
2018-01-23 21:00   ` Samuel Wales
2018-03-04  9:32 ` Bastien Guerry
2018-03-04 10:06   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-04 10:29     ` Bastien [this message]
2018-03-05 14:20       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-05 16:23         ` Kaushal Modi
2018-03-06 17:41           ` Bastien Guerry
2018-03-06 21:39             ` Achim Gratz
2018-03-05 18:08         ` Thomas S. Dye
2018-03-06  1:08           ` Bastien Guerry
2018-03-06  9:57             ` Thomas S. Dye
2018-03-06 11:55               ` Eric S Fraga
2018-03-06 17:39               ` Bastien
2018-03-06 18:45                 ` Thomas S. Dye
2018-03-06 19:19                   ` Bastien
2018-03-07  2:53                     ` Thomas S. Dye
2018-03-05 19:01         ` Achim Gratz
2018-03-06 19:02           ` Bastien
2018-03-06 18:59         ` Bastien Guerry
     [not found]       ` <WM!6f8274ba0065f984ff76586f7cf117703ccda15adbb5042672b0d2695ee5ac6b367ee58f70aacbbc9c2b10eecb9672ea!@mailhub-mx3.ncl.ac.uk>
2018-03-05 16:22         ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-06 17:47           ` Bastien Guerry
2018-03-04 10:54     ` Bastien Guerry
2018-03-05 14:26       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-06 17:43         ` Bastien Guerry

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