From: David Maus <dmaus@ictsoc.de>
To: Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk>
Cc: Vagn Johansen <gonz808@hotmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Re: using orgmode to send html mail?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 19:25:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87iq897onb.wl%dmaus@ictsoc.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tyrtrjfq.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk>
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Dan Davison wrote:
>[...]
>> It just makes no sense to create such a nested message: If the
>> recipient requires html markup than send him html markup. Why such a
>> nested message?
>Hi David,
>What about if I'm sending an email containing some org-mode elements
>like tables, and also some code. I want the reader to he able to see the
>plain text structure of the tables, so that they know exactly what's
>going on. But for the code, I would like those using webmail clients to
>see nicely formatted, fontified code.
>Is that a potential justification?
I cannot answer this question because the whole idea of sending just
some parts of the entire document is based on a horrible mistake:
> But for the code, I would like those using webmail clients to see
> nicely formatted, fontified code.
I understand this idea, but: MIME is about message transport, not
message display. You want the message displayed in a certain way but
You have little control over how the content is displayed on the
recipients side.
To give an example: I've sent one of the "complex" MIME messages to a
mail account at GMX, a quite popular german mail hoster and opened it
in the web interface.
The message was constructed like this (using mml like markup):
< #part type="text/plain">
First MIME entity
< #multipart type="alternative">
< #part type="text/plain">
Second in plain text
< #part type="text/html">
<b>Second</b> in HTML
< /#multipart>
< #part type="text/plain">
Third MIME entity.
< #part type="text/plain">
Fourth in plain text
< #part type="text/html">
<b>Fourth</b> in HTML
< /#multipart>
- when I first opened the message I had to toggle the NoScript
extension to allow iframes:
http://s10.directupload.net/file/u/15851/wydtca3n_png.htm
- after that the html was shown, but... totally messed up
http://s10.directupload.net/file/u/15851/j43xqkjt_png.htm
- and finally I chose "plain text" display
http://s1.directupload.net/file/u/15851/plz64u4a_png.htm
And the second and fourth part was silently dropped.
Sending a simple message with a plain text body followed by it's html
representation was displayed fine:
http://s10.directupload.net/file/u/15851/ojdn8pdl_png.htm
See what I mean?
-- David
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-22 2:34 using orgmode to send html mail? Matt Price
2010-03-22 15:44 ` Matt Price
2010-03-22 20:18 ` David Maus
2010-03-23 19:54 ` Eric Schulte
2010-03-23 21:46 ` Xiao-Yong Jin
2010-03-24 15:00 ` Eric Schulte
2010-03-24 17:50 ` Dan Davison
2010-03-24 18:01 ` Eric Schulte
2010-03-24 19:12 ` David Maus
2010-03-24 20:19 ` Eric Schulte
2010-03-25 21:17 ` David Maus
2010-03-26 14:53 ` Eric Schulte
2010-03-26 16:04 ` David Maus
2010-03-26 16:32 ` Eric Schulte
2010-03-31 18:12 ` [CONTRIB?] " Eric Schulte
2010-03-31 20:05 ` Dan Davison
2010-03-31 21:10 ` Eric Schulte
2010-03-31 21:37 ` Dan Davison
2010-04-01 14:22 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-05 5:39 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-05 6:49 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-05 15:31 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-09 16:41 ` [ANN] org-mime -- " Eric Schulte
2010-04-09 17:41 ` Matt Price
2010-04-09 19:11 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-09 19:22 ` David Maus
2010-04-09 20:34 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-12 13:37 ` Andrew Hyatt
2010-04-12 17:22 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-13 1:31 ` Andrew Hyatt
2010-04-14 0:57 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-14 1:57 ` Andrew Hyatt
2010-04-14 14:59 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-14 18:00 ` Andrew Hyatt
2010-04-14 19:26 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-04-14 8:39 ` Eric S Fraga
2010-04-14 15:12 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-14 19:38 ` Eric S Fraga
2010-04-15 2:49 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-15 15:47 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-13 23:03 ` Eric S Fraga
2010-04-14 1:22 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-05 13:54 ` [CONTRIB?] " Dan Davison
2010-04-05 14:50 ` David Maus
2010-04-05 14:53 ` Dan Davison
2010-04-05 15:30 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-01 17:37 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2010-04-01 17:45 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2010-03-31 20:37 ` David Maus
2010-03-31 22:03 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-02 7:04 ` David Maus
2010-04-02 23:01 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-03 9:19 ` David Maus
2010-04-04 17:52 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-01 7:53 ` Vagn Johansen
2010-04-02 6:34 ` David Maus
2010-04-02 14:57 ` Dan Davison
2010-04-02 17:25 ` David Maus [this message]
2010-04-02 21:10 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-03 9:00 ` David Maus
2010-04-03 12:03 ` David Maus
2010-04-04 2:41 ` Eric Schulte
2010-04-04 10:00 ` David Maus
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