From: Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com>
To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 09:17:31 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hb2nj2ic.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9991.1320159724@alphaville.dokosmarshall.org> (Nick Dokos's message of "Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:02:04 -0400")
Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes:
> Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:
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>> Can we please back off this path?
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> In order to prevent confusion or needless argument: the path I think we
> should back off of is the committing of these changes to master - I think
> the work should be done in a branch and cooked thoroughly before merging
> it to master.
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I would agree that these changes should be happening in branches if the
problems were technical, however the issues that need to be addressed
are social issues of consensus, and for better or worse pushing changes
to the master branch is the best way to alert all interested actors and
begin the consensus-building process.
If these changes had been pushed up to a branch they would be sitting
happily in that branch with no-one noticing or objecting. They had been
discussed at length on list before their implementation and commitance,
but this most recent round of discussion was caused by a push to the
master branch.
This is also after all the development repository, and while I do try
very hard never to break this head of this repository at the same time I
think it is an acceptable place to try out new functionality.
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> I did not mean to imply (although I think one could easily get that impression
> from my mail) backing off the property implementation (despite my personal
> reservations about that).
>
OK, good, because I *do* think that properties are a natural fit for
specifying code block parameters. The use of subtree properties has
already proven itself, and file-wide properties are a natural extension
(much more natural than the introduction of a #+BABEL: header argument).
While there is certainly some pain in this process I think it is nailing
down both the needs for code block properties as well as the scope of
what is and is not desirable functionality for properties in general.
Best -- Eric
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Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/
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Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-20 19:43 [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines Eric Schulte
2011-10-20 20:06 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-20 20:12 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-20 20:51 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-20 21:04 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-10-20 21:50 ` [RFC] Standardized code block keywords Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 1:52 ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-10-21 2:57 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-21 7:26 ` Christian Moe
2011-10-21 16:12 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 19:10 ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-10-23 12:20 ` Daniel Bausch
2011-10-23 16:09 ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-10-24 5:49 ` Daniel Bausch
2011-10-21 8:17 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-10-21 16:17 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 17:37 ` Sebastien Vauban
[not found] ` <CAGhLh6GXg6nMZ-xdu-EP=YRx7Pznrme2Yq1S0vdc6Yq0tPMxFg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-10-25 6:59 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-10-21 16:08 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 16:05 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 18:02 ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-10-22 15:19 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 7:43 ` Torsten Wagner
2011-10-21 8:27 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-10-21 16:25 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 16:24 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 17:41 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-10-24 1:06 ` Torsten Wagner
2011-10-25 6:44 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-10-25 7:24 ` Jambunathan K
2011-10-25 8:21 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-10-21 12:22 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2011-10-21 16:27 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 17:48 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 19:24 ` Viktor Rosenfeld
2011-10-23 12:42 ` Daniel Bausch
2011-10-24 7:37 ` Eric S Fraga
2011-10-24 14:39 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2011-10-24 7:47 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-10-25 1:30 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-25 7:14 ` Daniel Bausch
2011-10-25 8:14 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-10-25 14:44 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-25 15:38 ` Christian Moe
2011-10-25 15:42 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-25 16:28 ` Martyn Jago
2011-10-25 16:49 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-25 17:21 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-26 5:58 ` Daniel Bausch
2011-10-26 13:10 ` Giovanni Ridolfi
2011-10-26 14:41 ` Daniel Bausch
2011-10-26 15:04 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-27 5:25 ` Daniel Bausch
2011-10-28 16:49 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-28 18:31 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-28 18:40 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-28 18:52 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-28 23:22 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-28 23:39 ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-10-29 2:18 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-31 7:25 ` Daniel Bausch
2011-10-31 19:01 ` Eric Schulte
2011-11-01 6:34 ` C-c C-c not working at end of #+end_src line (was: [RFC] Standardized code block keywords) Daniel Bausch
2011-10-25 14:17 ` [RFC] Standardized code block keywords Eric Schulte
2011-10-26 5:41 ` Daniel Bausch
2011-10-26 6:17 ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-10-26 12:16 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 18:14 ` Thorsten
2011-10-20 21:34 ` [ANN] BREAKING CHANGE -- removing #+BABEL file-wide property lines Eric Schulte
2011-10-20 21:44 ` suvayu ali
2011-10-20 21:52 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-20 22:23 ` Suvayu Ali
2011-10-20 21:47 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-10-20 21:54 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-20 21:57 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-20 21:48 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-20 21:57 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-20 22:08 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-20 22:18 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 7:28 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-10-21 8:14 ` Christian Moe
2011-10-21 9:12 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-10-21 10:47 ` Christian Moe
2011-10-21 10:59 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-10-21 11:17 ` Christian Moe
2011-10-21 11:18 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-10-21 17:37 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 18:09 ` Nick Dokos
2011-10-22 15:25 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 18:35 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-10-21 18:40 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-10-22 7:58 ` Christian Moe
2011-10-24 9:44 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-10-22 15:52 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-22 19:07 ` Christian Moe
2011-10-24 10:10 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-10-24 11:37 ` Christian Moe
2011-10-24 12:11 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-10-24 12:38 ` Christian Moe
2011-10-24 15:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2011-10-24 9:50 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-10-25 9:35 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-10-25 10:06 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-10-25 10:31 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-10-25 11:47 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-10-25 14:13 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-26 14:00 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-10-26 15:20 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-22 15:26 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-21 20:24 ` Christian Moe
2011-10-21 21:05 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2011-10-22 7:08 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-10-22 15:53 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-24 18:07 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2011-10-31 18:53 ` Eric Schulte
2011-10-31 20:18 ` Samuel Wales
[not found] ` <87obwwkia5.fsf@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAJcAo8scJXx=3s0f_FDAJXFKW2uh5gFTHwgDRbM6xXohr5ZPzQ@mail.gmail.com>
2011-10-31 22:22 ` Samuel Wales
2011-11-01 1:28 ` Eric Schulte
2011-11-01 14:26 ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-01 15:02 ` Nick Dokos
2011-11-01 15:17 ` Eric Schulte [this message]
2011-11-02 11:12 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-11-02 12:18 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2011-11-02 14:16 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-11-03 18:40 ` Eric Schulte
2011-11-03 18:51 ` Jambunathan K
2011-11-04 9:15 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-11-02 12:57 ` Brian Wightman
2011-11-02 14:18 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-11-03 1:29 ` Bastien
2011-10-20 21:27 ` Christian Moe
2011-10-20 21:32 ` Nick Dokos
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