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From: Timothy <tecosaur@gmail.com>
To: Russell Adams <RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.Com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2021 03:34:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h7bljz6j.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ya5kan0X65ykhkea@maokai>

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Hi Russell,

> To my esteemed colleague, I have a few comments for your comments on
> my comments. ;]

Lovely. I happen to have one or two remarks on your comments^{2} :P

> I’m all for the idea of tightening up documentation to make Org a more
> polished product. The issue is when the justification for that effort
> is interoperability with tools outside Emacs.

I think this is always a good thing. Regarding the motivation, I’m not sure how
crucial it is. The idea I have had and am yet to articulate (hopefully I’ll sit
down and do so this week) is originally motivated by considerations for people
who want to make tools that work with Org, but upon reflection I think has
broader benefits. I think the framing is also rather important here, not
changing Org to fit other tools, but making it easier for other tools to shape
themselves to be interoperable with org-mode — which I see as the crux of this
topic.

> My goal is to remind everyone that maintainer and coder time is a
> scarce resource, and I’m very protective of asking them to commit to
> anything. An indirect commitment can still feel like a commitment,
> even if it’s only implied by popular opinion and not agreed to.

It’s always nice to see you advocating for consideration of maintainers and
contributors free time. With this specific topic though, given that we have one
maintainer/significant contributor (Ihor) asking for feeback on proposed changes
w/ motivation and another one (me) very interested in it , I’m not sure that
this concern is particularly relevant.

All the best,
Timothy

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-06 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-05  7:35 Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-05  9:16 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-05 10:24   ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-05 11:08     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-05 11:54       ` Heinz Tuechler
2021-12-05 12:08       ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-05 13:32         ` Tim Cross
2021-12-05 13:52           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-12-05 22:20             ` Tim Cross
2021-12-05 14:30           ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-05 22:39             ` Tim Cross
2021-12-08 13:47               ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-08 14:39                 ` Tim Cross
2021-12-08 16:16                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-12-08 17:07                     ` Russell Adams
2021-12-08 19:22                       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-12-08 20:14                         ` Russell Adams
2021-12-08 21:50                           ` Tim Cross
2021-12-09  8:12                             ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-12-08 21:25                         ` Tim Cross
2021-12-09  8:07                           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-12-09  8:36                             ` Timothy
2021-12-09  9:18                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-09 10:46                     ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-09 15:21                       ` Russell Adams
2021-12-09 16:25                         ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-09 21:15                           ` Samuel Wales
2021-12-09 23:27                         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-12-10  2:42                           ` Tim Cross
2021-12-10  6:08                             ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-12-11 10:03                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-11 21:19                     ` Tim Cross
2021-12-06 19:41             ` Karl Voit
2021-12-05 18:59         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-05 23:24           ` Russell Adams
2021-12-06  5:57             ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-06  6:02               ` Timothy
2021-12-06  7:24                 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-06 10:04                   ` Greg Minshall
2021-12-06 14:59                     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-06 17:59                       ` Tom Gillespie
2021-12-06 18:25                         ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-12-06 18:42                           ` Russell Adams
2021-12-06 18:47                             ` Timothy
2021-12-06 19:28                               ` Russell Adams
2021-12-06 19:34                                 ` Timothy [this message]
2021-12-06 18:30                         ` Russell Adams
2021-12-06 19:10                         ` Gerry Agbobada
2021-12-08 12:56                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-06 10:08         ` Greg Minshall
2021-12-06 19:45         ` Karl Voit
2021-12-07 11:08           ` Vincent Breton
2021-12-08 13:13             ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-08 13:30           ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-05 13:06   ` Tim Cross
2021-12-05 14:55     ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-05 18:54 ` Timothy
2021-12-06 11:08 ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-06 18:43 ` Russell Adams

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