* Custom_ID problem with org-info.js display
@ 2009-04-20 23:54 Xin Shi
2009-04-21 9:40 ` Carsten Dominik
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Xin Shi @ 2009-04-20 23:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hello Experts,
I've tried to use the new feature in 6.26a for custom IDs. Unfortunately, those
sections have the custom IDs won't show up properly in the javascript page. I
used the org-info.js(v.0.1.0.6). I'm wondering if the orgmode.org web
administrator could use this new feature for one of the pages, such as
http://orgmode.org/Changes.html
So, that the link to each version will be something like:
http://orgmode.org/Changes.html#v6.25
And see if its sub-section still works on that page.
Thanks!
Xin
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread* Re: Custom_ID problem with org-info.js display 2009-04-20 23:54 Custom_ID problem with org-info.js display Xin Shi @ 2009-04-21 9:40 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-04-21 10:04 ` Sebastian Rose 2009-04-21 11:31 ` Sebastian Rose 2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-21 9:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xin Shi; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailing List Sebastian still needs to fix org-info.js for the new setup. - Carsten On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:54 AM, Xin Shi wrote: > Hello Experts, > > I've tried to use the new feature in 6.26a for custom IDs. > Unfortunately, those > sections have the custom IDs won't show up properly in the > javascript page. I > used the org-info.js(v.0.1.0.6). I'm wondering if the orgmode.org web > administrator could use this new feature for one of the pages, such as > > http://orgmode.org/Changes.html > > So, that the link to each version will be something like: > > http://orgmode.org/Changes.html#v6.25 > > And see if its sub-section still works on that page. > > > Thanks! > > Xin > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Custom_ID problem with org-info.js display 2009-04-20 23:54 Custom_ID problem with org-info.js display Xin Shi 2009-04-21 9:40 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-21 10:04 ` Sebastian Rose 2009-04-21 11:31 ` Sebastian Rose 2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-04-21 10:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xin Shi; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi, yes, my fault. I didn't get around to adjust org-info.js to the new custom-ID feature. But this will happen tonight for sure. Sorry for the delay. The new version will be compatible with the ancient export. Regards, Sebastian Xin Shi <shixin111@gmail.com> writes: > Hello Experts, > > I've tried to use the new feature in 6.26a for custom IDs. Unfortunately, those > sections have the custom IDs won't show up properly in the javascript page. I > used the org-info.js(v.0.1.0.6). I'm wondering if the orgmode.org web > administrator could use this new feature for one of the pages, such as > > http://orgmode.org/Changes.html > > So, that the link to each version will be something like: > > http://orgmode.org/Changes.html#v6.25 > > And see if its sub-section still works on that page. > > > Thanks! > > Xin > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > -- Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472 Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044 mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417 Email: s.rose@emma-stil.de, sebastian_rose@gmx.de Http: www.emma-stil.de ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Custom_ID problem with org-info.js display 2009-04-20 23:54 Custom_ID problem with org-info.js display Xin Shi 2009-04-21 9:40 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-04-21 10:04 ` Sebastian Rose @ 2009-04-21 11:31 ` Sebastian Rose 2009-04-21 12:19 ` Carsten Dominik 2 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-04-21 11:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xin Shi; +Cc: emacs-orgmode OK. Should work now. Old human readable IDs in headline's anchors are still prefered. Also, org-info.js is now minified (no obfuscation) to decrease the file size by about 40%. For those interested in hacking it, the plain org-info.js was moved to org-info-src.js. You may pull the script from the usual sources. E.g: http://repo.or.cz/w/Worg.git?a=blob_plain;f=code/org-info-js/org-info.js;hb=31f6317f2aaebe18ea8ec3a9e0a5b0426e062164 Best regards Sebastian Xin Shi <shixin111@gmail.com> writes: > Hello Experts, > > I've tried to use the new feature in 6.26a for custom IDs. Unfortunately, those > sections have the custom IDs won't show up properly in the javascript page. I > used the org-info.js(v.0.1.0.6). I'm wondering if the orgmode.org web > administrator could use this new feature for one of the pages, such as > > http://orgmode.org/Changes.html > > So, that the link to each version will be something like: > > http://orgmode.org/Changes.html#v6.25 > > And see if its sub-section still works on that page. > > > Thanks! > > Xin > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > -- Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472 Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044 mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417 Email: s.rose@emma-stil.de, sebastian_rose@gmx.de Http: www.emma-stil.de ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Custom_ID problem with org-info.js display 2009-04-21 11:31 ` Sebastian Rose @ 2009-04-21 12:19 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-04-21 14:16 ` Sebastian Rose 2009-04-22 0:05 ` A Mark-up rule question Xin 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-21 12:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sebastian Rose; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Xin Shi On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: > > > OK. Should work now. > > Old human readable IDs in headline's anchors are still prefered. > > Also, org-info.js is now minified (no obfuscation) to decrease the > file > size by about 40%. > > For those interested in hacking it, the plain org-info.js was moved to > org-info-src.js. > > > You may pull the script from the usual sources. E.g: > > http://repo.or.cz/w/Worg.git?a=blob_plain;f=code/org-info-js/org-info.js;hb=31f6317f2aaebe18ea8ec3a9e0a5b0426e062164 Hi Sebastian, this looks great. However: Let's look at the first heading now in Changes.html: <div id="outline-container-v6.26" class="outline-2"> <h2 id="v6.26"><a name="sec-1" id="sec-1"></a>Version 6.26 </h2> <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-v6.26"> As you can see, in this case, where there is a custom ID "v6.26" that is used, I have added "sec-1" as an anchor to the headline, just to make sure that the full systemacs of sec-NN anchors remains available. However, it seems that the link extraction commands "l" and "L" now both access the sec-1 name. I believe it would be better, in this case, to use v6.26. - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Custom_ID problem with org-info.js display 2009-04-21 12:19 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-21 14:16 ` Sebastian Rose 2009-04-21 14:36 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-04-22 0:05 ` A Mark-up rule question Xin 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-04-21 14:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Xin Shi Hmm - the script supports two kinds of human readable IDs now. The old ones (which where defined in the anchor inside the the headline), and the new ones, which are now defined in the headlines 'id' property. Which one is now to prefer? What I did now, is to remove the regexp search at all (`^sec-') and switched to prefer the ID in the anchor (to be backward compatible). Is there a need for numeric `sec-x.x' IDs? To put that in again is not a big deal. Sebastian Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: > >> >> >> OK. Should work now. >> >> Old human readable IDs in headline's anchors are still prefered. >> >> Also, org-info.js is now minified (no obfuscation) to decrease the file >> size by about 40%. >> >> For those interested in hacking it, the plain org-info.js was moved to >> org-info-src.js. >> >> >> You may pull the script from the usual sources. E.g: >> >> http://repo.or.cz/w/Worg.git?a=blob_plain;f=code/org-info-js/org-info.js;hb=31f6317f2aaebe18ea8ec3a9e0a5b0426e062164 > > Hi Sebastian, > > this looks great. However: > > Let's look at the first heading now in Changes.html: > > <div id="outline-container-v6.26" class="outline-2"> > <h2 id="v6.26"><a name="sec-1" id="sec-1"></a>Version 6.26 </h2> > <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-v6.26"> > > As you can see, in this case, where there is a custom ID "v6.26" that is used, > I have added "sec-1" as an anchor to the headline, just to make sure that the > full systemacs of sec-NN anchors remains available. > > However, it seems that the link extraction commands "l" and "L" now both access > the sec-1 name. I believe it would be better, in this case, to use v6.26. > > - Carsten > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Custom_ID problem with org-info.js display 2009-04-21 14:16 ` Sebastian Rose @ 2009-04-21 14:36 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-04-21 23:55 ` Xin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-21 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sebastian Rose; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Xin Shi On Apr 21, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: > > > Hmm - the script supports two kinds of human readable IDs now. The old > ones (which where defined in the anchor inside the the headline), and > the new ones, which are now defined in the headlines 'id' property. > > Which one is now to prefer? > > What I did now, is to remove the regexp search at all (`^sec-') and > switched to prefer the ID in the anchor (to be backward compatible). > > > Is there a need for numeric `sec-x.x' IDs? Yes, for all the headings that do not have a human readable ID. > > > To put that in again is not a big deal. Please do. The algorithm could be: Look at both the ID of the <h3> tag, and the anchors in the headline. Take the first on in the combined list that does not match sec-x.x. If none does, use the sec-... one. - Carsten > > > > > Sebastian > > > Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: >> On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> OK. Should work now. >>> >>> Old human readable IDs in headline's anchors are still prefered. >>> >>> Also, org-info.js is now minified (no obfuscation) to decrease the >>> file >>> size by about 40%. >>> >>> For those interested in hacking it, the plain org-info.js was >>> moved to >>> org-info-src.js. >>> >>> >>> You may pull the script from the usual sources. E.g: >>> >>> http://repo.or.cz/w/Worg.git?a=blob_plain;f=code/org-info-js/org-info.js;hb=31f6317f2aaebe18ea8ec3a9e0a5b0426e062164 >> >> Hi Sebastian, >> >> this looks great. However: >> >> Let's look at the first heading now in Changes.html: >> >> <div id="outline-container-v6.26" class="outline-2"> >> <h2 id="v6.26"><a name="sec-1" id="sec-1"></a>Version 6.26 </h2> >> <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-v6.26"> >> >> As you can see, in this case, where there is a custom ID "v6.26" >> that is used, >> I have added "sec-1" as an anchor to the headline, just to make >> sure that the >> full systemacs of sec-NN anchors remains available. >> >> However, it seems that the link extraction commands "l" and "L" now >> both access >> the sec-1 name. I believe it would be better, in this case, to use >> v6.26. >> >> - Carsten >> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Custom_ID problem with org-info.js display 2009-04-21 14:36 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-21 23:55 ` Xin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Xin @ 2009-04-21 23:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Carsten and Sebastian, Thanks for your quick response! The current solution is good for me. :) Xin Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On Apr 21, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: > >> >> >> Hmm - the script supports two kinds of human readable IDs now. The old >> ones (which where defined in the anchor inside the the headline), and >> the new ones, which are now defined in the headlines 'id' property. >> >> Which one is now to prefer? >> >> What I did now, is to remove the regexp search at all (`^sec-') and >> switched to prefer the ID in the anchor (to be backward compatible). >> >> >> Is there a need for numeric `sec-x.x' IDs? > > Yes, for all the headings that do not have a human readable ID. > >> >> >> To put that in again is not a big deal. > > Please do. The algorithm could be: > > Look at both the ID of the <h3> tag, and the anchors in the headline. > Take the first on in the combined list that does not match sec-x.x. > If none does, use the sec-... one. > > - Carsten > > >> >> >> >> >> Sebastian >> >> >> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: >>> On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> OK. Should work now. >>>> >>>> Old human readable IDs in headline's anchors are still prefered. >>>> >>>> Also, org-info.js is now minified (no obfuscation) to decrease the >>>> file >>>> size by about 40%. >>>> >>>> For those interested in hacking it, the plain org-info.js was moved to >>>> org-info-src.js. >>>> >>>> >>>> You may pull the script from the usual sources. E.g: >>>> >>>> http://repo.or.cz/w/Worg.git?a=blob_plain;f=code/org-info-js/org-info.js;hb=31f6317f2aaebe18ea8ec3a9e0a5b0426e062164 >>>> >>> >>> Hi Sebastian, >>> >>> this looks great. However: >>> >>> Let's look at the first heading now in Changes.html: >>> >>> <div id="outline-container-v6.26" class="outline-2"> >>> <h2 id="v6.26"><a name="sec-1" id="sec-1"></a>Version 6.26 </h2> >>> <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-v6.26"> >>> >>> As you can see, in this case, where there is a custom ID "v6.26" >>> that is used, >>> I have added "sec-1" as an anchor to the headline, just to make sure >>> that the >>> full systemacs of sec-NN anchors remains available. >>> >>> However, it seems that the link extraction commands "l" and "L" now >>> both access >>> the sec-1 name. I believe it would be better, in this case, to use >>> v6.26. >>> >>> - Carsten >>> > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* A Mark-up rule question 2009-04-21 12:19 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-04-21 14:16 ` Sebastian Rose @ 2009-04-22 0:05 ` Xin 2009-04-22 12:21 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Xin @ 2009-04-22 0:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hello Experts, I'm wondering if it's possible to implement some special character for displaying math in HTML in addition to the already well performed greek letter. For example, 35 ± 5 can be written as 35 \pm 5, which in the html correspond to ±, etc. See this page: http://comers.citadel.edu/math_sym2005.htm Thanks! Xin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: A Mark-up rule question 2009-04-22 0:05 ` A Mark-up rule question Xin @ 2009-04-22 12:21 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-04-22 14:21 ` Xin Shi 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-22 12:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Apr 22, 2009, at 2:05 AM, Xin wrote: > Hello Experts, > > I'm wondering if it's possible to implement some special character > for displaying math in HTML in addition to the already well > performed greek letter. For example, 35 ± 5 can be written as 35 > \pm 5, which in the html correspond to ±, etc. See this page: > > http://comers.citadel.edu/math_sym2005.htm That exact table lists ± as the way to write this symbol, which is why \plusmn does work in Org. However, since Org is LaTeX based for symbols like this, I agree that \pm should work, and it will in the future. The full list of these commands is in org-html-entities, you are welcome to go through this list and point out omissions. - Carsten > > Thanks! > > Xin > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: A Mark-up rule question 2009-04-22 12:21 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-22 14:21 ` Xin Shi 2009-04-23 7:19 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-05-06 10:30 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Xin Shi @ 2009-04-22 14:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Carsten, That's great! It would be nice that we document all of this symbols in the manual. Another question related to the Mark-up: Is there any way to by pass the "+" mark-up except using space? The reason is that I have a table like this: | D^{+}\to K^{-}\pi^{+}\pi^{+} | 44120 \plusmn 211 | 43800 \plusmn 210 | +0.7% (+1.5\sigma)| The above will have several "punch through line". If I use space surround the "+", the output looks not as tight as as one symbol ... Any suggestions? Thanks! Xin Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On Apr 22, 2009, at 2:05 AM, Xin wrote: > >> Hello Experts, >> >> I'm wondering if it's possible to implement some special character >> for displaying math in HTML in addition to the already well performed >> greek letter. For example, 35 ± 5 can be written as 35 \pm 5, which >> in the html correspond to ±, etc. See this page: >> >> http://comers.citadel.edu/math_sym2005.htm > > That exact table lists ± as the way to write > this symbol, which is why \plusmn does work in Org. > However, since Org is LaTeX based for symbols like this, > I agree that \pm should work, and it will in the future. > > The full list of these commands is in org-html-entities, > you are welcome to go through this list and point out omissions. > > - Carsten > >> >> Thanks! >> >> Xin >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: A Mark-up rule question 2009-04-22 14:21 ` Xin Shi @ 2009-04-23 7:19 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-05-06 10:30 ` Carsten Dominik 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-04-23 7:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xin Shi; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Apr 22, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Xin Shi wrote: > Hi Carsten, > > That's great! It would be nice that we document all of this symbols > in the manual. > > Another question related to the Mark-up: > > Is there any way to by pass the "+" mark-up except using space? The > reason is that I have a table like this: > > | D^{+}\to K^{-}\pi^{+}\pi^{+} | 44120 \plusmn 211 | 43800 > \plusmn 210 | +0.7% (+1.5\sigma)| > > The above will have several "punch through line". If I use space > surround the "+", the output looks not as tight as as one symbol ... > > Any suggestions? You could customize `org-emphasis-regexp-components' and remove the curly braces from the pre- and post-match sets. - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: A Mark-up rule question 2009-04-22 14:21 ` Xin Shi 2009-04-23 7:19 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-05-06 10:30 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-05-06 13:08 ` Xin Shi 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-05-06 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xin Shi; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Apr 22, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Xin Shi wrote: > Hi Carsten, > > That's great! It would be nice that we document all of this symbols > in the manual. Are you volunteering to make this table? :-) - Carsten > > Another question related to the Mark-up: > > Is there any way to by pass the "+" mark-up except using space? The > reason is that I have a table like this: > > | D^{+}\to K^{-}\pi^{+}\pi^{+} | 44120 \plusmn 211 | 43800 > \plusmn 210 | +0.7% (+1.5\sigma)| > > The above will have several "punch through line". If I use space > surround the "+", the output looks not as tight as as one symbol ... > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > > Xin > > > > Carsten Dominik wrote: >> >> On Apr 22, 2009, at 2:05 AM, Xin wrote: >> >>> Hello Experts, >>> >>> I'm wondering if it's possible to implement some special character >>> for displaying math in HTML in addition to the already well >>> performed greek letter. For example, 35 ± 5 can be written as 35 >>> \pm 5, which in the html correspond to ±, etc. See this >>> page: >>> >>> http://comers.citadel.edu/math_sym2005.htm >> >> That exact table lists ± as the way to write >> this symbol, which is why \plusmn does work in Org. >> However, since Org is LaTeX based for symbols like this, >> I agree that \pm should work, and it will in the future. >> >> The full list of these commands is in org-html-entities, >> you are welcome to go through this list and point out omissions. >> >> - Carsten >> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Xin >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: A Mark-up rule question 2009-05-06 10:30 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-05-06 13:08 ` Xin Shi 2009-05-06 13:30 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Xin Shi @ 2009-05-06 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 419 bytes --] On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>wrote: > > On Apr 22, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Xin Shi wrote: > > Hi Carsten, >> >> That's great! It would be nice that we document all of this symbols in the >> manual. >> > > Are you volunteering to make this table? :-) > Sure. I'll be glad to do that :) Could you tell me the format and where to put the documents? > > - Carsten > > > Xin [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1195 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 204 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: A Mark-up rule question 2009-05-06 13:08 ` Xin Shi @ 2009-05-06 13:30 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-05-06 15:35 ` Sebastian Rose 2009-05-06 15:37 ` Sebastian Rose 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-05-06 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xin Shi; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On May 6, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Xin Shi wrote: > > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com > > wrote: > > On Apr 22, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Xin Shi wrote: > > Hi Carsten, > > That's great! It would be nice that we document all of this symbols > in the manual. > > Are you volunteering to make this table? :-) > > Sure. I'll be glad to do that :) > > Could you tell me the format and where to put the documents? Maybe as a Worg page, so the format would be org-mode: * Table of special symbol macros | Symbol | Org | HTML | LaTeX | |--------+----------+-----------+----------| | \vert | ~\vert~ | ~|~ | ~\vert~ | | \alpha | ~\alpha~ | ~α~ | ~\alpha~ | Note that HTML and LaTeX are not always the same word, only sometimes. In org-html-entities you can see this by looking at entries which are a cons cell, for example ("star" . "*") means "\star" in LaTeX, and "*" in HTML. I think many of these symbols have never been tried, so exporting this document to HTML and to LaTeX will be an interesting exercise and probably help us fix some bugs. Thanks! - Carsten > > > > - Carsten > > > > > Xin > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: A Mark-up rule question 2009-05-06 13:30 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-05-06 15:35 ` Sebastian Rose 2009-05-06 15:37 ` Sebastian Rose 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-05-06 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Xin Shi To looup rarely used HTML-symbols, take a look at http://www-atm.physics.ox.ac.uk/user/iwi/charmap.html (not sure where I got the link from - maybe from this list/thread?) Best wishes Sebastian ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: A Mark-up rule question 2009-05-06 13:30 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-05-06 15:35 ` Sebastian Rose @ 2009-05-06 15:37 ` Sebastian Rose 2009-05-06 15:41 ` Xin Shi 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-05-06 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Xin Shi Forgot to say: It's always a good idea to use the unicode entity notations in (X)HTML, since you will not get an error `undefined entity...' Example: Use ` ' instead of ` ' Regards Sebastian Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > On May 6, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Xin Shi wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >> On Apr 22, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Xin Shi wrote: >> >> Hi Carsten, >> >> That's great! It would be nice that we document all of this symbols in the >> manual. >> >> Are you volunteering to make this table? :-) >> >> Sure. I'll be glad to do that :) >> >> Could you tell me the format and where to put the documents? > > > Maybe as a Worg page, so the format would be org-mode: > > * Table of special symbol macros > > | Symbol | Org | HTML | LaTeX | > |--------+----------+-----------+----------| > | \vert | ~\vert~ | ~|~ | ~\vert~ | > | \alpha | ~\alpha~ | ~α~ | ~\alpha~ | > > > > > Note that HTML and LaTeX are not always the same word, only sometimes. > In org-html-entities you can see this by looking at entries which > are a cons cell, for example > > ("star" . "*") means "\star" in LaTeX, and "*" in HTML. > > I think many of these symbols have never been tried, so exporting > this document to HTML and to LaTeX will be an interesting exercise > and probably help us fix some bugs. > > Thanks! > > - Carsten > > > > > > >> >> >> >> - Carsten >> >> >> >> >> Xin >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: A Mark-up rule question 2009-05-06 15:37 ` Sebastian Rose @ 2009-05-06 15:41 ` Xin Shi 2009-05-07 6:42 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Xin Shi @ 2009-05-06 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sebastian Rose; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2420 bytes --] Hi Carsten and Sebastian, Thanks for your suggestions! It seems the choice of unicode or not is up to the developer for coding that part. For documentation purpose only, I would prefer to have a first draft of character table which only contains two columns on Worg page: | Symbol | Org | |---------+-----------+ | \nbsp | ~\nbsp~ | | \iexcl | ~\iexcl~ | | \cent | ~\cent~ | Is that OK? Xin On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de>wrote: > Forgot to say: > > It's always a good idea to use the unicode entity notations in (X)HTML, > since you will not get an error `undefined entity...' > > Example: > > Use ` ' instead of ` ' > > > Regards > > Sebastian > > Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > > On May 6, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Xin Shi wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Carsten Dominik < > carsten.dominik@gmail.com > >> > wrote: > >> > >> On Apr 22, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Xin Shi wrote: > >> > >> Hi Carsten, > >> > >> That's great! It would be nice that we document all of this symbols in > the > >> manual. > >> > >> Are you volunteering to make this table? :-) > >> > >> Sure. I'll be glad to do that :) > >> > >> Could you tell me the format and where to put the documents? > > > > > > Maybe as a Worg page, so the format would be org-mode: > > > > * Table of special symbol macros > > > > | Symbol | Org | HTML | LaTeX | > > |--------+----------+-----------+----------| > > | \vert | ~\vert~ | ~|~ | ~\vert~ | > > | \alpha | ~\alpha~ | ~α~ | ~\alpha~ | > > > > > > > > > > Note that HTML and LaTeX are not always the same word, only sometimes. > > In org-html-entities you can see this by looking at entries which > > are a cons cell, for example > > > > ("star" . "*") means "\star" in LaTeX, and "*" in HTML. > > > > I think many of these symbols have never been tried, so exporting > > this document to HTML and to LaTeX will be an interesting exercise > > and probably help us fix some bugs. > > > > Thanks! > > > > - Carsten > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> - Carsten > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Xin > >> > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3729 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 204 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: A Mark-up rule question 2009-05-06 15:41 ` Xin Shi @ 2009-05-07 6:42 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-05-07 6:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xin Shi; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Sure. - Carsten On May 6, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Xin Shi wrote: > Hi Carsten and Sebastian, > > Thanks for your suggestions! > > It seems the choice of unicode or not is up to the developer for > coding that part. For documentation purpose only, I would prefer to > have a first draft of character table which only contains two > columns on Worg page: > > | Symbol | Org | > |---------+-----------+ > | \nbsp | ~\nbsp~ | > | \iexcl | ~\iexcl~ | > | \cent | ~\cent~ | > > Is that OK? > > Xin > > > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Sebastian Rose > <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> wrote: > Forgot to say: > > It's always a good idea to use the unicode entity notations in > (X)HTML, > since you will not get an error `undefined entity...' > > Example: > > Use ` ' instead of ` ' > > > Regards > > Sebastian > > Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes: > > On May 6, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Xin Shi wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com > >> > wrote: > >> > >> On Apr 22, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Xin Shi wrote: > >> > >> Hi Carsten, > >> > >> That's great! It would be nice that we document all of this > symbols in the > >> manual. > >> > >> Are you volunteering to make this table? :-) > >> > >> Sure. I'll be glad to do that :) > >> > >> Could you tell me the format and where to put the documents? > > > > > > Maybe as a Worg page, so the format would be org-mode: > > > > * Table of special symbol macros > > > > | Symbol | Org | HTML | LaTeX | > > |--------+----------+-----------+----------| > > | \vert | ~\vert~ | ~|~ | ~\vert~ | > > | \alpha | ~\alpha~ | ~α~ | ~\alpha~ | > > > > > > > > > > Note that HTML and LaTeX are not always the same word, only > sometimes. > > In org-html-entities you can see this by looking at entries which > > are a cons cell, for example > > > > ("star" . "*") means "\star" in LaTeX, and "*" in HTML. > > > > I think many of these symbols have never been tried, so exporting > > this document to HTML and to LaTeX will be an interesting exercise > > and probably help us fix some bugs. > > > > Thanks! > > > > - Carsten > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> - Carsten > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Xin > >> > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
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