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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs@gmail.com>
Cc: andre duarte bueno <bueno@lenep.uenf.br>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Export Org with Org concept -- Re: Problems with C-c C-e file.org,
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2023 09:48:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edsckkym.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADs++6gUozQ8bMeqftY49cqyJWRwrscVHgNEjZCb89DyV9svEQ@mail.gmail.com>

Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs@gmail.com> writes:

> (3) _is_ my experience with the Org mailing list.
>
> What I meant by "the developers like your questions" was roughly:
> "recognizing that that person deserves help, and giving him tools that
> would let him solve his problems in hours instead of in months or
> years".
>
> For example, in this thread
>
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2021-12/msg00674.html

To be fair, your another message copy got some replies:
https://list.orgmode.org/CADs++6j+oPnSA8pO7_sbCTmhOg5v_BEzkr6vBB1ECfHBprKmFQ@mail.gmail.com/

> no one considered that if I was asking that then maybe it would be a
> good idea to make `org-export-dispatch' more hackeable by beginners...

In any case, we are here now, after the discussion resurfaced.

> For example, someone could have said "can you try this? Copy that
> function to other file, replace its lines foo and bar by the lines
> plic and bletch, and use the ideas in these two blog posts to debug
> and inspect its data structures"... but no, that didn't happen - I've
> asked lots of technical questions here over the years and never got
> detailed answers like that, only answers whose technical details _were
> kept as short as possible_, and whose explanations were much closer to
> "in English" than to "in Lisp".

I recommend following up on the replies if you find them incomplete.

There are no guarantees that exhaustive detailed replies will be given -
they take a lot of time to write and are often not necessary.

> A few days ago I added subtitles to my video about "Org for
> Non-Users". The links are here,
>
>   http://angg.twu.net/2021-org-for-non-users.html
>
> and some people will prefer to just read this:
>
>   http://angg.twu.net/eev-videos/2021-org-for-non-users.vtt
>   http://angg.twu.net/SUBTITLES/2021-org-for-non-users.lua.html
>
> It explains with examples how a "non-user" thinks, and it shows what I
> mean by "explanations in Lisp".

I get it, but you cannot force me to reply like this. I simply do not
think this way - when I try to reply to questions on ML, I do it the way
I can. I cannot adapt the explanation style that is foreign to me.

If you find something in mine (or other's) replies not clear, just ask
to clarify.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-03  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-17 20:57 Problems with C-c C-e file.org andre duarte bueno
2022-12-18 14:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-19 21:10   ` Export Org with Org concept -- Re: Problems with C-c C-e file.org, Jean Louis
2022-12-25 12:06     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-25 15:43       ` Jean Louis
2022-12-26 10:04         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-26 15:58           ` Jean Louis
2022-12-27 10:46             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-31  1:08     ` Eduardo Ochs
2022-12-31  6:19       ` Jean Louis
2023-01-01 14:02       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-02  5:58         ` Eduardo Ochs
2023-01-02 11:07           ` Jean Louis
2023-01-03  9:48           ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-01-03 10:01             ` Eduardo Ochs
2023-01-03 12:15               ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-03 12:36                 ` Eduardo Ochs
2023-01-05 11:07                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05 14:41                     ` Alain.Cochard
2023-01-05 15:00                       ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-05 15:18                         ` Alain.Cochard
2023-01-05 20:37                           ` Eduardo Ochs
2023-01-05 18:50                       ` Jean Louis
2023-01-05 15:43                     ` Eduardo Ochs
2023-01-04 11:08                 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-05 11:16                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05 19:19                     ` Jean Louis
2023-01-06  3:51                       ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-07  9:04                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-07 18:34                         ` Jean Louis
2023-01-07 19:12                         ` Jean Louis
2023-01-12 15:43                         ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-13  9:41                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-04 18:03                 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-05 11:17                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05 19:37                     ` Jean Louis
2023-01-06  3:24                       ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-07 20:07                         ` Jean Louis
2023-01-08 16:42                           ` Max Nikulin
2023-01-07  9:09                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-04 17:51               ` Jean Louis
2023-01-04 16:53           ` Jean Louis
2022-12-20 16:56 ` Problems with C-c C-e file.org Jean Louis

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