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From: Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Org Minor Mode?
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 12:11:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d2gdtyqq.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87ioq5hoze.fsf@bzg.ath.cx

Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

Hi Bastien,

> Thorsten Jolitz <tjolitz@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> The real value and innovation of a true
>> org-minor-mode would be to introduce Org's intelligent headlines and all
>> the related functionality into the world of outcommented text in
>> programming modes.
>
> Yes.  We could have `orgstruct-comment-prefix-regexp' along with
> `orgstruct-heading-prefix-regexp'.  I'll check this, thanks for
> the idea!

As long as there are hardcoded regexp searches all over the place in
org.el, org-agenda.el, orgtbl.el, and to a minor extends almost all
other Org libraries, I don't think just another outline-regexp can do
the trick - the called functions will fail when trying to match

,--------
| "^foo$"
`--------

but looking at

,---------------------------------------------------------------
| "^<<comment-starter-syntax>>foo<<maybe-comment-end-syntax>>$"
`---------------------------------------------------------------

Furthermore calling Org functions modifies the buffer, sometimes
inserting new lines, sometimes not. An Org minor-mode would need to
detect all newly inserted lines after a command call and outcomment them
with the programming major-mode's comment syntax. 

I already found a way to do that using external calls to diff, its
implemented in omm.el (needs to be debugged though, I stopped working on
it because it seemed the idea of an Org Minor Mode was a bit unpopular). 

In summary, its about:

 1. generalize the regexp constants and vars (allow for comment-syntax,
 when org-minor-mode)

 2. deal with hardcoded regexp-snippets in functions (my proposoal:
 replace "^" with org-BOL, "$" with org-EOL, "\\*" with org-STAR)

 3. outcomment new lines after calls to Org commands. 

All the other stuff should be already there in orgstruct and outshine. 

-- 
cheers,
Thorsten

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-19 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-10 17:55 [RFC] Org Minor Mode? Thorsten Jolitz
2014-04-10 19:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-04-11 10:07   ` Bastien
2014-04-11 17:22     ` Richard Lawrence
2014-04-13 16:28       ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-04-19  5:37       ` Samuel Wales
2014-04-19 10:25         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-04-13 16:07     ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-04-18 13:27       ` Bastien
2014-04-13 16:00   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-04-18 13:29     ` Bastien
2014-04-18 15:54       ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-04-19  5:23         ` Bastien
2014-04-19 10:11           ` Thorsten Jolitz [this message]
2014-04-19 12:57             ` Bastien
2014-04-24 21:06               ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2014-04-25  8:00                 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-04-29 12:24                 ` Bastien
2014-04-29 18:44                   ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2014-05-06  9:06                     ` Bastien
2014-04-24 21:16   ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2014-04-25  7:49     ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-05-06  9:20       ` Bastien
2014-05-27  9:20         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-05-28 21:47           ` Bastien
2014-05-28 22:19             ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-05-29  0:01               ` Bastien
2014-05-29 17:47                 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-05-29 18:57                   ` Bastien
2014-05-30  8:52                     ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-05-30 12:13                       ` Bastien
2014-05-30 13:41                         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-05-30 13:54                           ` Bastien
2014-05-30 14:15                             ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-05-30 14:22                               ` Bastien
2014-05-30 14:38                                 ` Thorsten Jolitz

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