From: "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.online>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [HELP] Fwd: Org format as a new standard source format for GNU manuals
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 19:47:01 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87czbdcsys.fsf@tsdye.online> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bkqx4jyg.fsf@localhost>
Good news. Thanks Ihor. And thanks to Nicolas for his work on
ox.
Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
> Dear List,
>
> I am forwarding an official email from RMS changing subject line
> to more
> descriptive. See below.
>
> For some context, in order to support specialized syntax for
> manuals, we
> may first need to implement the discussed special blocks export
> and
> inline special blocks:
> 1. https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87y1yr9gbl.fsf@gmail.com/
> 2. https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87edzqv4ha.fsf@localhost/
>
> The above links aim to introduce export functionality that we
> now have
> for links to special blocks and new custom markup elements. I am
> referring to
> 1. Ability to create new custom element types programmatically
> 2. Ability to define how to :export the custom element types
>
> Similar to `org-link-set-parameters'.
>
> Patches and more concrete ideas are welcome!
>
> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Subject: Re: Org mode and Emacs
> To: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 08:10:03 -0400 (3 days, 17 hours, 36
> minutes ago)
> Flags: seen, list
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> List: emacs-orgmode.gnu.org
>
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>
> Speaking as the Chief GNUisance, rssponsible for GNU Project
> standards, I would be happy to adopt an upgraded Org format as a
> new
> standard source format for GNU manuals, _provided_ Org format
> has been
> extended with the capability to express all the constructions
> and
> distinctions that Texinfo can express, generate all the output
> formats
> Texinfo can generate, and use TeX to make beautiful printed
> output.
>
> Texinfo can generate these output formats: Info files, HTML,
> ASCII
> text, and DVI and PDF files via TeX.
>
> Texinfo provides numerous subtle distinctions that show up
> clearly in
> each of these output formats. Compare, for example, @var, @dfn
> and
> @emph; compare @code, @samp, @file, @command, @option, @kbd, and
> @key.
>
> I am sure people can extend Org software to handle these
> semantic
> distinctions and generate these output formats. Since it has
> been
> done once, it can be done again. But the work is not trivial.
>
> The work has to start by designing what the extended Org format
> will look
> like. That part is the crucial part; once it has been
> specified,
> people can work independently to implement various parts of
> handling
> that format.
>
> --
> Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
> Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
> Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
> Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
>
>
>
> ----------
All the best,
Tom
--
Thomas S. Dye
https://tsdye.online/tsdye
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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <E1ocmvz-0002iB-2M@fencepost.gnu.org>
2022-09-30 3:31 ` [HELP] Fwd: Org format as a new standard source format for GNU manuals Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-30 3:49 ` Samuel Wales
2022-09-30 5:47 ` Thomas S. Dye [this message]
2022-09-30 8:25 ` Christopher M. Miles
2022-09-30 12:49 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-01 3:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-01 10:42 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-01 11:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-01 11:27 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-02 4:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-02 10:38 ` Fraga, Eric
2022-10-02 13:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-02 13:21 ` Fraga, Eric
2022-10-02 13:47 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-03 4:23 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-04 20:28 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-05 6:56 ` Rick Lupton
2022-10-06 3:39 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-02 16:28 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-03 4:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-04 16:32 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-06 5:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-30 20:36 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-01 4:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-01 8:01 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-01 15:08 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-03 4:19 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-07 22:48 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-08 6:52 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-08 22:34 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-11 3:03 ` Robert Weiner
2022-10-11 12:16 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-12 22:00 ` Richard Stallman
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