Re: Quotes for LaTeX export

[Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com>]

Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:

> Hi Laurens,
>
> Laurens Van Houtven <_@lvh.io> writes:
>
>> I'm writing a book using org-mode. On export, org-mode turns double quotes
>> like "hello" into ``hello''. Some modern LaTeXes no longer support that
>> form, instead preferring semantic markup. (The reasoning being that the
>> markup implies a particular quote style, whereas quotation style is
>> language-dependent.)
>
> This is not true.  Quotes depend on your LANGUAGE-cookie.  See
> org-export-smart-quotes-alist.
>
>
>> As a result, I get
>>
>> The preferred way to do that these days is, in the preamble:
>>
>> \usepackage{csquotes}
>>
>> ... and then later:
>>
>> \enquote{something}
>
> But this would require us to load an extra package.  Org is quite
> capable of handling this on the lisp side (and Org ≠ LaTeX).  Clearly,
> we could have a org-export-user-smart-quote-alist taking priority over
> the predefined one.
>
>> I think it would make sense to support this for org, and perhaps eventually
>> make it default behavior. FWIW: I had no idea about this until it bit me
>> when my LaTeX document suddenly had bogus quotes in it.
>
> This has never happened to me, despite extensive usage of LaTeX for
> almost ten years.
>
>> If there is no interest to add this to org, how do I hack org so that this
>> is what it does?
>
> The cleanest way would be a filter, probably
> org-export-filter-quote-block-functions and filter-plain-text.  
>
> The easiest way would be a macro or simply redefining
> org-export-smart-quotes-alist to suit your needs.
>
> Hope it helps.
>

IIRC, there was support for csquotes in the old exporter[fn:1] but I guess
it went away when the new exporter came along.

Nick

Footnotes:

[fn:1] e.g. see

     http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/21588

and the following commit which applies to the *OLD* latex exporter:

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| commit 2b9afb9e63d2fd60a3bb09e33c9d4abb01586339
| Author: Bastien Guerry <bzg@altern.org>
| Date:   Mon Jul 11 15:10:00 2011 +0200
| 
|     org-latex.el: New defcustom `org-export-latex-quotes' to control quotes.
|     
|     * org-latex.el (org-export-latex-quotes): New defcustom.
|     (org-export-latex-quotation-marks): Use it.
|     
|     This allows users to define what quotes they want to use as a
|     replacement of english double-quotes while exporting to LaTeX.
|     
|     In particular, if you use the csquote package, you can configure
|     Org to output something like \endquote{some quoted text} instead
|     of "some quoted text".
|     
|     Thanks to Frederik for bringing this issue up, and to Thomas S.
|     Dye, Nick Dokos and Stefan Nobis for elaborating this solution.
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although I cannot find the thread of that discussion on gmane.