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* When opening email links, unseen messages marked as read!
@ 2010-11-05 12:47 Sébastien Vauban
  2010-11-05 19:11 ` David Maus
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-11-05 12:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ

Hello,

I just found out a particularly annoying feature of following email links.

Let's say I follow a link to an email stored in my INBOX.friends.

1. I do C-c C-o on the link.
2. It opens a summary buffer with that mail as only line in it
3. It displays its content below or on the left, depending on the window
   configuration.

That's working as expected.

Now, suppose I have 1 unseen (hence, unread as well) email that has been moved
into that same INBOX.friends folder (because of the splitting rules).

The above sequence becomes:

1. I do C-c C-o on the link.
2. It opens a summary buffer with that mail *and the unseen messages*.
3. It displays the content of the linked email below or on the left.

But... the unseen messages are marked as read, though I've not read them at
all... Hence, if I quit that article window without taking care, I've simply
almost "lost" emails: I will never read them, as they never will appear
anymore in my list of mails to read...

Any idea on what's causing this?

In my case, I read emails with Gnus 5.13. I don't know if this is related to
Gnus, or to the process of following email links: what about WL, for example?

Best regards,
  Seb

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* Re: When opening email links, unseen messages marked as read!
  2010-11-05 12:47 When opening email links, unseen messages marked as read! Sébastien Vauban
@ 2010-11-05 19:11 ` David Maus
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: David Maus @ 2010-11-05 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sébastien Vauban; +Cc: emacs-orgmode


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At Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:47:22 +0100,
Sébastien Vauban wrote:
> Now, suppose I have 1 unseen (hence, unread as well) email that has been moved
> into that same INBOX.friends folder (because of the splitting rules).
>
> ... 
> 
> But... the unseen messages are marked as read, though I've not read them at
> all... 

You meant: The /unread/ messages are marked as read?  

Just to avoid confusion about the terminology: In IMAP there is a
distinction between Read/Unread and Seen/Unseen messages.  An Unseen
(or: Recent) message is a message that has not been seen by the IMAP
client.  As soon as the client "sees" a message (i.e. SELECT the
mailbox) it loses this flag.  Sounds like this is happening.  Seeing
the message does of course not affect the Read/Unread flag.

If it really is the Unread flag that is removed, it sounds like
problem of your setup or Gnus.  AFAIK just tells Gnus to open a
particular message in a particular folder.

WL works fine (as always).

Best,
  -- David
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