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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk>
Cc: Matti De Craene <mattidecraene@gmail.com>,
	emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Bastien <bastien.guerry@wikimedia.fr>
Subject: Re: [Patch] M-Right and M-Left behave differently on headings and list items
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:02:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61F604DA-1716-464B-A8BD-EB8FBCE3FE2B@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bpdc7tme.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk>


On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Dan Davison wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Bastien wrote:
>>
>>> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> do others agree with Matti's view?
>>>
>>> FWIW, I do.
>>
>> There is still another difference.
>>
>> Currently, when I execute the indentation command
>> several times in a row, the range to which this applies
>> is locked.
>>
>> So for example"
>>
>>     - level 1a
>>        - level 2a
>>        - level 2b
>>        - level 2c
>>     - level 1b
>>
>> If I now go on level 1a and use M-S-left, level 1b becomes a sibling
>> of 2c.  If I immediately after this do M-S-right, 1b should be  
>> indented
>> along with 2c, but this does not happen because the item range is
>> locked.  If, however, you do something in between, like moving the
>> cursor by one character, 1b will be included.
>>
>> I believe I did this a long time ago, because I felt that not locking
>> the range for commands in direct succession would too quickly modify
>> the structure, including at places outside of the current view (
>> beyond the window end)
>>
>> If you are calling for more consistency, maybe this "feature" should
>> go as well?
>
> I hope that this is sufficiently closely related to belong in this
> thread: I find it surprising that org-do-demote deactivates the
> region. Let's say I start out with
>
> * 1
> ** 11
> * 111
> * 112
> * 2
>
> and I wish to move to make 111 and 112 be children of 11
>
> The way that seems natural to me is to select headings 111 and 112,  
> and
> apply org-demote-subtree twice in succession. So with point at the
> beginning of the 111 line,
>
> C-space down down M-right M-right

Hi Dan,

I do agree with your observation.  However, keeping the mark active  
would mean that further cursor motions will still have the highlighted  
region hanging around, and I found this the bigger headache.

What I do in these cases is

M-right C-x C-x M-right

which is not pretty but workable.

- Carsten

>
> However, this leads me to
>
> * 1
> ** 11
> ** 111
> ** 112
> ** 2
>
> because after one application of org-demote-subtree, the region  
> becomes
> deactivated and the second demotion applies to heading 2, which is
> unlikely to have been intended.
>
> Dan
>
>
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>>
>>
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- Carsten

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-22 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-19 22:29 [Patch] M-Right and M-Left behave differently on headings and list items Matti De Craene
2010-04-21 12:53 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-21 13:19   ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-04-21 13:27   ` Anthony Lander
2010-04-21 13:32   ` Bastien
2010-04-21 13:54     ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-21 14:04       ` Bernt Hansen
2010-04-21 14:44       ` Dan Davison
2010-04-22 16:02         ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2010-04-23  8:26           ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-21 20:27       ` Matti De Craene
2010-04-21 21:07         ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-22 10:15           ` Bastien
2010-04-22 20:37             ` Matti De Craene
2010-04-23  8:26             ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-26 22:07               ` Matti De Craene
2010-04-27  5:57                 ` Carsten Dominik

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