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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Matti De Craene <mattidecraene@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Bastien <bastien.guerry@wikimedia.fr>
Subject: Re: [Patch] M-Right and M-Left behave differently on headings and list items
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:07:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27D37EBD-C23A-42B9-80F4-417E45F552E6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <l2xe4f0b2511004211327h843b7f1cw5a0736e9e16703e7@mail.gmail.com>


On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Matti De Craene wrote:

> Hello Carsten and others,
>
>
>> If you are calling for more consistency, maybe this "feature" should
>> go as well?
>
> I do not have a strong opinion on this. In (my) day-to-day use of
> org-mode, cases in which the difference between having a lock or not
> matters rarely do occur.
>
> If consistency here is important, then it seems more sensible to me to
> have the lock for headings as well, instead of removing it for list
> items. When I grab a chunk of text to move back and forth, I do not
> expect it to suddenly get hands and grab other pieces of text :-)

Yes, I agree we should keep the lock for lists.  For headlines I
have never felt the need as much.

>
> I've discovered a bug in my patch today:
> M-Right and M-Left on collapsed items take the complete subtree. On
> collapsed headings they only take the current heading. I'm not sure
> what would be the desired behaviour here...

Excellent question.  I think the cleanest would be that M-left/right
on a folded item that does have children throws an error.

- Carsten

>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Matti
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Carsten Dominik
> <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Bastien wrote:
>>
>>> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> do others agree with Matti's view?
>>>
>>> FWIW, I do.
>>
>> There is still another difference.
>>
>> Currently, when I execute the indentation command
>> several times in a row, the range to which this applies
>> is locked.
>>
>> So for example"
>>
>>     - level 1a
>>        - level 2a
>>        - level 2b
>>        - level 2c
>>     - level 1b
>>
>> If I now go on level 1a and use M-S-left, level 1b becomes a sibling
>> of 2c.  If I immediately after this do M-S-right, 1b should be  
>> indented
>> along with 2c, but this does not happen because the item range is
>> locked.  If, however, you do something in between, like moving the
>> cursor by one character, 1b will be included.
>>
>> I believe I did this a long time ago, because I felt that not locking
>> the range for commands in direct succession would too quickly modify
>> the structure, including at places outside of the current view (
>> beyond the window end)
>>
>> If you are calling for more consistency, maybe this "feature" should
>> go as well?
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>>

- Carsten

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-21 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-19 22:29 [Patch] M-Right and M-Left behave differently on headings and list items Matti De Craene
2010-04-21 12:53 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-21 13:19   ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-04-21 13:27   ` Anthony Lander
2010-04-21 13:32   ` Bastien
2010-04-21 13:54     ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-21 14:04       ` Bernt Hansen
2010-04-21 14:44       ` Dan Davison
2010-04-22 16:02         ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-23  8:26           ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-21 20:27       ` Matti De Craene
2010-04-21 21:07         ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2010-04-22 10:15           ` Bastien
2010-04-22 20:37             ` Matti De Craene
2010-04-23  8:26             ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-26 22:07               ` Matti De Craene
2010-04-27  5:57                 ` Carsten Dominik

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