Re: org-speed-commands-default 1 2 3

[Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>]

Hi Oleh,

you have good arguments - but I still think this is a matter of workflow and preferences, so I am not going to change the defaults.  This is what we have user options for.

Thanks for taking the time to discuss is, and sorry for the slow reply.

- Carsten

On 8.8.2013, at 15:02, Oleh <ohwoeowho@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Carsten Dominik
> <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 23.7.2013, at 15:48, Oleh <ohwoeowho@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I've recently started using `org-use-speed-commands', and I like it a lot,
>>> except I had to make one tweak:
>>> 
>>>   (setq org-use-speed-commands t)
>>>   (setq org-speed-commands-user
>>>         '(("1" . (org-shifttab 1))
>>>           ("2" . (org-shifttab 2))
>>>           ("3" . (org-shifttab 3))))
>>> 
>>> The corresponding values of `org-speed-commands-default' aren't that useful
>>> for GTD:
>>> 
>>>   ("1" org-priority 65)
>>>   ("2" org-priority 66)
>>>   ("3" org-priority 67)
>> 
>> That depends on wether you work with priorities.  I find S-TAB easy enough, so I do not
>> really see the need for speed commands here.
> 
> Maybe I should elaborate my point of view on the usability.
> Priorities don't normally need "buttons" to jump between states,
> a "knob" is enough: only increase/decrease priority, not jump to priority 1,
> jump to priority 2 etc.
> 
> Outlines, on the other hand, can benefit from the ability to jump between
> the levels of expansion.
> 
> Level 1 is very useful - it minimizes everything, showing the
> structure of the file. S-TAB is useful and simple, but you have to
> repeat several times,
> checking each time if it has brought you to the level that you wanted to be on.
> 
> Level 2 is very useful - and cannot, unlike Level 1, be reached by S-TAB.
> For my gtd.org, it shows the tasks and appointments, without expanding
> them, as well as the project names, but not what they contain.
> This gives a nice overview of my projects.
> 
> Level 3 is very useful - and cannot be reached by S-TAB.
> It shows me the separate TODOs for my projects, without revealing my
> notes on them, just the headings.
> I even bound the rest of the digits to levels and it is useful sometimes.
> 
> In my opinion, these shortcuts make org-mode a better outlining tool,
> and should be given priority before the priority shortcuts.
> 
> Slightly off-topic, these type of shortcuts is why I use Ubuntu Unity (I think
> I managed to turn off the spying). It's got a feature that Super+1-9
> switches between applications in the sidebar slots 1-9. Sure, it's
> possible to do with Alt-TAB, and that's what most other desktops do,
> but Super+1-9 is superior, since you don't have to wait for feedback,
> you instantly get what you want.
> 
> regards,
> Oleh