* Changing star character @ 2011-02-25 12:42 Javier M Mora 2011-02-26 15:36 ` Bastien 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Javier M Mora @ 2011-02-25 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hi, I want to use org-mode as an ideas-processor to write articles/thesis with LaTeX. I've tried export from org to LaTeX but I don't like results: Every org headline become in a latex headline. I want more granularity using org to classify my ideas inside a paragraph. My idea is be able to use the same file as a valid org file and a valid LaTeX file and select in which major mode I want to work (org or Auctex) depending on my needs. If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment mark in LaTeX). It become possible. Is it possible? Is there a variable to change star symbol? Is "*" so hardcoded that it is impossible change behavior? Thanks, Javier M Mora. I'm not member of org-mode list. Please, send me a copy to my personal email. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Changing star character 2011-02-25 12:42 Changing star character Javier M Mora @ 2011-02-26 15:36 ` Bastien 2011-02-26 20:54 ` Javier M Mora 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2011-02-26 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Javier M Mora; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Javier, Javier M Mora <jamarier@gmail.com> writes: > If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment mark in > LaTeX). It become possible. > > Is it possible? No. > Is there a variable to change star symbol? > Is "*" so hardcoded that it is impossible change behavior? Yes. Besides, I don't really get what you are trying to achieve, an example would be better - but this example won't make it easier to change what you suggest ;) Best, -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Changing star character 2011-02-26 15:36 ` Bastien @ 2011-02-26 20:54 ` Javier M Mora 2011-02-26 21:02 ` Thomas S. Dye 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Javier M Mora @ 2011-02-26 20:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On 26/02/11 16:36, Bastien wrote: > Hi Javier, > > Javier M Mora<jamarier@gmail.com> writes: > >> If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment mark in >> LaTeX). It become possible. >> >> Is it possible? > > No. > >> Is there a variable to change star symbol? >> Is "*" so hardcoded that it is impossible change behavior? > > Yes. > > Besides, I don't really get what you are trying to achieve, an example > would be better - but this example won't make it easier to change what > you suggest ;) > I like org-mode, and I like Auctex mode and both are major modes so it's not possible use both simultaneous. I'd like to write scientific text in LaTeX using org-mode way: % Section: Importance of This \section{Importance of This} %% What is it "This" To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors: %%% "This" depends on "That" \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla... %%% This depends on "These" Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla... %%% This is not "another". And don't forget another has anything. %%%% SubIdea blablabla % is the comment in LaTeX and is the outline of my ideas. And the text associated to every headline is the text of the article. With org-mode, I can sort ideas (and lines of text associated) moving subtrees. org-mode relate ideas with text. % char is LaTeX comment so LaTeX ignores until the end of line. The problem is org-mode only works with star '*' character to mark headlines and LaTeX would print lots of star in the text. org-mode LaTeX export is not enough good for this idea, because every headline in org-mode becomes a headline in LaTeX and as you can see in my example this is not always the better. The export org-mode to LaTeX of this example is: \section{Section: Importance of This} \section{Importance of This} \subsection{What is it "This"} To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors: \subsubsection{"This" depends on "That"} \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla... \subsubsection{This depends on "These"} Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla... \subsubsection{This is not "another".} And don't forget another has anything. \paragraph{SubIdea} blablabla When the desired objetive is put everything in a paragraph: \section{Importance of This} To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors: \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla... Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla... And don't forget another has anything. blablabla etc. Before and after of send email to org-mode mail list, I read source code and I thought star character was hard coded in it. (IMHO star char must be a configuration var). But I wanted to hear the opinion of experts from the maillist before doing anything. So, I created two elisp functions to make a translation.: (defun org2latex () "Convert star to comments in LaTeX" (interactive) (save-excursion (goto-char (point-min)) (while (search-forward-regexp "^\*+" nil t) ; (while (search-backward "*" (beginning-of-line) t) ; (replace-match "%" nil t)) (let ((finalsearch (point))) (move-beginning-of-line nil) (while (search-forward "*" finalsearch t) (replace-match "%" nil t)) ) ) ) (latex-mode) ) (defun latex2org () "Convert comments in LaTeX to stars in org-mode" (interactive) (save-excursion (goto-char (point-min)) (while (search-forward-regexp "^%+" nil t) ; (while (search-backward "%" (beginning-of-line) t) ; (replace-match "*" nil t)) (let ((finalsearch (point))) (move-beginning-of-line nil) (while (search-forward "%" finalsearch t) (replace-match "*" nil t)) ) ) ) ;doesn't work. I want open/see the currently (sub)tree (let ((position (point))) (org-mode) (goto-char position) ) ) I'm a newbie with elisp. This works but: 1.- I don't spend to much time with search-backward, and didn't work for me. So, I had to make a detour with search-forward. 2.- From Latex2org when I start org-mode, All trees are closed. I'd like keep open the tree in the cursor. That all. I hope these functions can help someone or inspire to solve a similar problem. To make programs? Again, I'm not in maillist. Please send me a copy to my email. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Changing star character 2011-02-26 20:54 ` Javier M Mora @ 2011-02-26 21:02 ` Thomas S. Dye 2011-02-26 22:10 ` Alan L Tyree 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2011-02-26 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Javier M Mora; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode Aloha Javier, On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Javier M Mora wrote: > On 26/02/11 16:36, Bastien wrote: >> Hi Javier, >> >> Javier M Mora<jamarier@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment >>> mark in >>> LaTeX). It become possible. >>> >>> Is it possible? >> >> No. >> >>> Is there a variable to change star symbol? >>> Is "*" so hardcoded that it is impossible change behavior? >> >> Yes. >> >> Besides, I don't really get what you are trying to achieve, an >> example >> would be better - but this example won't make it easier to change >> what >> you suggest ;) >> > > > I like org-mode, and I like Auctex mode and both are major modes so > it's not possible use both simultaneous. > > You can use both. You can edit LaTeX source code blocks in Org-mode using the AucTeX major mode, then tangle the LaTeX code. All the best, Tom > I'd like to write scientific text in LaTeX using org-mode way: > > % Section: Importance of This > \section{Importance of This} > %% What is it "This" > To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors: > %%% "This" depends on "That" > \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla... > %%% This depends on "These" > Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla... > %%% This is not "another". > And don't forget another has anything. > %%%% SubIdea > blablabla > > > % is the comment in LaTeX and is the outline of my ideas. And the > text associated to every headline is the text of the article. With > org-mode, I can sort ideas (and lines of text associated) moving > subtrees. org-mode relate ideas with text. > > % char is LaTeX comment so LaTeX ignores until the end of line. > > The problem is org-mode only works with star '*' character to mark > headlines and LaTeX would print lots of star in the text. org-mode > LaTeX export is not enough good for this idea, because every > headline in org-mode becomes a headline in LaTeX and as you can see > in my example this is not always the better. The export org-mode to > LaTeX of this example is: > > \section{Section: Importance of This} > \section{Importance of This} > \subsection{What is it "This"} > To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors: > \subsubsection{"This" depends on "That"} > \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla... > \subsubsection{This depends on "These"} > Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla... > \subsubsection{This is not "another".} > And don't forget another has anything. > \paragraph{SubIdea} > blablabla > > When the desired objetive is put everything in a paragraph: > > \section{Importance of This} > To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors: > \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla... > Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla... > And don't forget another has anything. > blablabla > > etc. > > > Before and after of send email to org-mode mail list, I read source > code and I thought star character was hard coded in it. (IMHO star > char must be a configuration var). But I wanted to hear the opinion > of experts from the maillist before doing anything. > > So, I created two elisp functions to make a translation.: > > (defun org2latex () > "Convert star to comments in LaTeX" > (interactive) > (save-excursion > (goto-char (point-min)) > (while (search-forward-regexp "^\*+" nil t) > ; (while (search-backward "*" (beginning-of-line) t) > ; (replace-match "%" nil t)) > (let ((finalsearch (point))) > (move-beginning-of-line nil) > (while (search-forward "*" finalsearch t) > (replace-match "%" nil t)) > ) > ) > ) > (latex-mode) > ) > > (defun latex2org () > "Convert comments in LaTeX to stars in org-mode" > (interactive) > (save-excursion > (goto-char (point-min)) > (while (search-forward-regexp "^%+" nil t) > ; (while (search-backward "%" (beginning-of-line) t) > ; (replace-match "*" nil t)) > (let ((finalsearch (point))) > (move-beginning-of-line nil) > (while (search-forward "%" finalsearch t) > (replace-match "*" nil t)) > ) > ) > ) > ;doesn't work. I want open/see the currently (sub)tree > (let ((position (point))) > (org-mode) > (goto-char position) > ) > ) > > I'm a newbie with elisp. This works but: > > 1.- I don't spend to much time with search-backward, and didn't work > for me. So, I had to make a detour with search-forward. > > 2.- From Latex2org when I start org-mode, All trees are closed. I'd > like keep open the tree in the cursor. > > That all. I hope these functions can help someone or inspire to > solve a similar problem. To make programs? > > Again, I'm not in maillist. Please send me a copy to my email. > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Changing star character 2011-02-26 21:02 ` Thomas S. Dye @ 2011-02-26 22:10 ` Alan L Tyree 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Alan L Tyree @ 2011-02-26 22:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode; +Cc: Javier M Mora On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:02:23 -1000 "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote: > Aloha Javier, > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Javier M Mora wrote: > > > On 26/02/11 16:36, Bastien wrote: > >> Hi Javier, > >> > >> Javier M Mora<jamarier@gmail.com> writes: > >> > >>> If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment > >>> mark in > >>> LaTeX). It become possible. > >>> <SNIP> Hi Javier, Do you really need org mode for what you want to do? Simple outline mode is a good "idea processor" and you can change the '*' to '%'. Outline mode can run as a minor mode under auctex. Cheers, Alan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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