* Changing star character
@ 2011-02-25 12:42 Javier M Mora
2011-02-26 15:36 ` Bastien
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From: Javier M Mora @ 2011-02-25 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi,
I want to use org-mode as an ideas-processor to write articles/thesis
with LaTeX.
I've tried export from org to LaTeX but I don't like results: Every org
headline become in a latex headline. I want more granularity using org
to classify my ideas inside a paragraph.
My idea is be able to use the same file as a valid org file and a valid
LaTeX file and select in which major mode I want to work (org or Auctex)
depending on my needs.
If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment mark in
LaTeX). It become possible.
Is it possible?
Is there a variable to change star symbol?
Is "*" so hardcoded that it is impossible change behavior?
Thanks, Javier M Mora.
I'm not member of org-mode list. Please, send me a copy to my personal
email.
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* Re: Changing star character
2011-02-25 12:42 Changing star character Javier M Mora
@ 2011-02-26 15:36 ` Bastien
2011-02-26 20:54 ` Javier M Mora
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2011-02-26 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Javier M Mora; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Javier,
Javier M Mora <jamarier@gmail.com> writes:
> If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment mark in
> LaTeX). It become possible.
>
> Is it possible?
No.
> Is there a variable to change star symbol?
> Is "*" so hardcoded that it is impossible change behavior?
Yes.
Besides, I don't really get what you are trying to achieve, an example
would be better - but this example won't make it easier to change what
you suggest ;)
Best,
--
Bastien
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* Re: Changing star character
2011-02-26 15:36 ` Bastien
@ 2011-02-26 20:54 ` Javier M Mora
2011-02-26 21:02 ` Thomas S. Dye
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Javier M Mora @ 2011-02-26 20:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On 26/02/11 16:36, Bastien wrote:
> Hi Javier,
>
> Javier M Mora<jamarier@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment mark in
>> LaTeX). It become possible.
>>
>> Is it possible?
>
> No.
>
>> Is there a variable to change star symbol?
>> Is "*" so hardcoded that it is impossible change behavior?
>
> Yes.
>
> Besides, I don't really get what you are trying to achieve, an example
> would be better - but this example won't make it easier to change what
> you suggest ;)
>
I like org-mode, and I like Auctex mode and both are major modes so it's
not possible use both simultaneous.
I'd like to write scientific text in LaTeX using org-mode way:
% Section: Importance of This
\section{Importance of This}
%% What is it "This"
To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors:
%%% "This" depends on "That"
\emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla...
%%% This depends on "These"
Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla...
%%% This is not "another".
And don't forget another has anything.
%%%% SubIdea
blablabla
% is the comment in LaTeX and is the outline of my ideas. And the text
associated to every headline is the text of the article. With org-mode,
I can sort ideas (and lines of text associated) moving subtrees.
org-mode relate ideas with text.
% char is LaTeX comment so LaTeX ignores until the end of line.
The problem is org-mode only works with star '*' character to mark
headlines and LaTeX would print lots of star in the text. org-mode LaTeX
export is not enough good for this idea, because every headline in
org-mode becomes a headline in LaTeX and as you can see in my example
this is not always the better. The export org-mode to LaTeX of this
example is:
\section{Section: Importance of This}
\section{Importance of This}
\subsection{What is it "This"}
To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors:
\subsubsection{"This" depends on "That"}
\emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla...
\subsubsection{This depends on "These"}
Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla...
\subsubsection{This is not "another".}
And don't forget another has anything.
\paragraph{SubIdea}
blablabla
When the desired objetive is put everything in a paragraph:
\section{Importance of This}
To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors:
\emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla...
Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla...
And don't forget another has anything.
blablabla
etc.
Before and after of send email to org-mode mail list, I read source code
and I thought star character was hard coded in it. (IMHO star char must
be a configuration var). But I wanted to hear the opinion of experts
from the maillist before doing anything.
So, I created two elisp functions to make a translation.:
(defun org2latex ()
"Convert star to comments in LaTeX"
(interactive)
(save-excursion
(goto-char (point-min))
(while (search-forward-regexp "^\*+" nil t)
; (while (search-backward "*" (beginning-of-line) t)
; (replace-match "%" nil t))
(let ((finalsearch (point)))
(move-beginning-of-line nil)
(while (search-forward "*" finalsearch t)
(replace-match "%" nil t))
)
)
)
(latex-mode)
)
(defun latex2org ()
"Convert comments in LaTeX to stars in org-mode"
(interactive)
(save-excursion
(goto-char (point-min))
(while (search-forward-regexp "^%+" nil t)
; (while (search-backward "%" (beginning-of-line) t)
; (replace-match "*" nil t))
(let ((finalsearch (point)))
(move-beginning-of-line nil)
(while (search-forward "%" finalsearch t)
(replace-match "*" nil t))
)
)
)
;doesn't work. I want open/see the currently (sub)tree
(let ((position (point)))
(org-mode)
(goto-char position)
)
)
I'm a newbie with elisp. This works but:
1.- I don't spend to much time with search-backward, and didn't work for
me. So, I had to make a detour with search-forward.
2.- From Latex2org when I start org-mode, All trees are closed. I'd like
keep open the tree in the cursor.
That all. I hope these functions can help someone or inspire to solve a
similar problem. To make programs?
Again, I'm not in maillist. Please send me a copy to my email.
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* Re: Changing star character
2011-02-26 20:54 ` Javier M Mora
@ 2011-02-26 21:02 ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-02-26 22:10 ` Alan L Tyree
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2011-02-26 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Javier M Mora; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode
Aloha Javier,
On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Javier M Mora wrote:
> On 26/02/11 16:36, Bastien wrote:
>> Hi Javier,
>>
>> Javier M Mora<jamarier@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment
>>> mark in
>>> LaTeX). It become possible.
>>>
>>> Is it possible?
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> Is there a variable to change star symbol?
>>> Is "*" so hardcoded that it is impossible change behavior?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Besides, I don't really get what you are trying to achieve, an
>> example
>> would be better - but this example won't make it easier to change
>> what
>> you suggest ;)
>>
>
>
> I like org-mode, and I like Auctex mode and both are major modes so
> it's not possible use both simultaneous.
>
>
You can use both. You can edit LaTeX source code blocks in Org-mode
using the AucTeX major mode, then tangle the LaTeX code.
All the best,
Tom
> I'd like to write scientific text in LaTeX using org-mode way:
>
> % Section: Importance of This
> \section{Importance of This}
> %% What is it "This"
> To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors:
> %%% "This" depends on "That"
> \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla...
> %%% This depends on "These"
> Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla...
> %%% This is not "another".
> And don't forget another has anything.
> %%%% SubIdea
> blablabla
>
>
> % is the comment in LaTeX and is the outline of my ideas. And the
> text associated to every headline is the text of the article. With
> org-mode, I can sort ideas (and lines of text associated) moving
> subtrees. org-mode relate ideas with text.
>
> % char is LaTeX comment so LaTeX ignores until the end of line.
>
> The problem is org-mode only works with star '*' character to mark
> headlines and LaTeX would print lots of star in the text. org-mode
> LaTeX export is not enough good for this idea, because every
> headline in org-mode becomes a headline in LaTeX and as you can see
> in my example this is not always the better. The export org-mode to
> LaTeX of this example is:
>
> \section{Section: Importance of This}
> \section{Importance of This}
> \subsection{What is it "This"}
> To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors:
> \subsubsection{"This" depends on "That"}
> \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla...
> \subsubsection{This depends on "These"}
> Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla...
> \subsubsection{This is not "another".}
> And don't forget another has anything.
> \paragraph{SubIdea}
> blablabla
>
> When the desired objetive is put everything in a paragraph:
>
> \section{Importance of This}
> To talk about \emph{this} is important look to several factors:
> \emph{That} is very important in \emph{this} and bla, bla, bla...
> Also, \emph{These} is another. bla bla bla...
> And don't forget another has anything.
> blablabla
>
> etc.
>
>
> Before and after of send email to org-mode mail list, I read source
> code and I thought star character was hard coded in it. (IMHO star
> char must be a configuration var). But I wanted to hear the opinion
> of experts from the maillist before doing anything.
>
> So, I created two elisp functions to make a translation.:
>
> (defun org2latex ()
> "Convert star to comments in LaTeX"
> (interactive)
> (save-excursion
> (goto-char (point-min))
> (while (search-forward-regexp "^\*+" nil t)
> ; (while (search-backward "*" (beginning-of-line) t)
> ; (replace-match "%" nil t))
> (let ((finalsearch (point)))
> (move-beginning-of-line nil)
> (while (search-forward "*" finalsearch t)
> (replace-match "%" nil t))
> )
> )
> )
> (latex-mode)
> )
>
> (defun latex2org ()
> "Convert comments in LaTeX to stars in org-mode"
> (interactive)
> (save-excursion
> (goto-char (point-min))
> (while (search-forward-regexp "^%+" nil t)
> ; (while (search-backward "%" (beginning-of-line) t)
> ; (replace-match "*" nil t))
> (let ((finalsearch (point)))
> (move-beginning-of-line nil)
> (while (search-forward "%" finalsearch t)
> (replace-match "*" nil t))
> )
> )
> )
> ;doesn't work. I want open/see the currently (sub)tree
> (let ((position (point)))
> (org-mode)
> (goto-char position)
> )
> )
>
> I'm a newbie with elisp. This works but:
>
> 1.- I don't spend to much time with search-backward, and didn't work
> for me. So, I had to make a detour with search-forward.
>
> 2.- From Latex2org when I start org-mode, All trees are closed. I'd
> like keep open the tree in the cursor.
>
> That all. I hope these functions can help someone or inspire to
> solve a similar problem. To make programs?
>
> Again, I'm not in maillist. Please send me a copy to my email.
>
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> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
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* Re: Changing star character
2011-02-26 21:02 ` Thomas S. Dye
@ 2011-02-26 22:10 ` Alan L Tyree
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Alan L Tyree @ 2011-02-26 22:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode; +Cc: Javier M Mora
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:02:23 -1000
"Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
> Aloha Javier,
>
> On Feb 26, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Javier M Mora wrote:
>
> > On 26/02/11 16:36, Bastien wrote:
> >> Hi Javier,
> >>
> >> Javier M Mora<jamarier@gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >>> If I can change star symbol from "*" char to "%" char (comment
> >>> mark in
> >>> LaTeX). It become possible.
> >>>
<SNIP>
Hi Javier,
Do you really need org mode for what you want to do? Simple outline
mode is a good "idea processor" and you can change the '*' to '%'.
Outline mode can run as a minor mode under auctex.
Cheers,
Alan
> >
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>
>
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