license item

license item

[Andreas Roehler]

Hi,

having a look for the GPL license/version, orgmode is
distributed with, couldn't see it at your page.

Shouldn't I have overlooked it, suggest an item at your homepage.

Thanks

Andreas Röhler

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Re: license item

[Sebastian Rose]

Isn't it so, that no license means "All Rights Reserved"?

Not sure, bu I think in Germany it is...


Anyway, if you receive Org-mode with emacs, it has just the same license
as emacs.



It has a license to kill though:

  C-h f org-export-kill-licensed-text RET


   Sebastian

Re: license item

[Giovanni Ridolfi]

--- Ven 26/6/09, Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> ha scritto:
> 
> Anyway, if you receive Org-mode with emacs, it has just the
> same license
> as emacs.

In the site is written:
----------------------------------------
It's free!
    Org is 
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software] 
[open source software]]

, it is free, like Emacs. 
------------------------------------------

I think that this is enough. 

If we think that an explicit link to the GPL is necessary
we can link:

[[http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html][free]] like Emacs

or 

[[http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#GPL][free (GPL)]] like 

[[http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/][Emacs]]


Interestingly enough also the GNU Emacs web page does NOT have 
an *explicit* link to the licence of Emacs itself
neither to "free software" ;-)

cheers,
Giovanni

Re: license item

[Carsten Dominik]

This is the Carsten-AI speeking.  Link to GPL on homepage established...

Thank you.

On Jun 26, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote:

>
> --- Ven 26/6/09, Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> ha scritto:
>>
>> Anyway, if you receive Org-mode with emacs, it has just the
>> same license
>> as emacs.
>
> In the site is written:
> ----------------------------------------
> It's free!
>    Org is
> [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software]
> [open source software]]
>
> , it is free, like Emacs.
> ------------------------------------------
>
> I think that this is enough.
>
> If we think that an explicit link to the GPL is necessary
> we can link:
>
> [[http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html][free]] like Emacs
>
> or
>
> [[http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#GPL][free (GPL)]] like
>
> [[http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/][Emacs]]
>
>
> Interestingly enough also the GNU Emacs web page does NOT have
> an *explicit* link to the licence of Emacs itself
> neither to "free software" ;-)
>
> cheers,
> Giovanni
>
>
>
>
>
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OT (was Re: license item)

[Gijs Hillenius]

>> Interestingly enough also the GNU Emacs web page does NOT have
>> an *explicit* link to the licence of Emacs itself
>> neither to "free software" ;-)

Nice discovery! But I guess that is because it'd be recursive. :-)


-- 
As you grow older, you will still do foolish things, but you will do them
with much more enthusiasm.
		-- The Cowboy

Re: license item

[Ian Barton]

Sebastian Rose wrote:
> Isn't it so, that no license means "All Rights Reserved"?
> 
> Not sure, bu I think in Germany it is...
> 
> 
> Anyway, if you receive Org-mode with emacs, it has just the same license
> as emacs.
> 
> 
> 
I see Carsten has added a link to the GPL. However, I think it's 
worthwhile specifically saying which *version* of the GPL.

This might seem a trivial matter. However, I am involved with another 
project where the maintainer moved the licence from GPL V2 to GPL V3, 
with the best of intentions. A large commercial company wanted to 
contribute considerable resources to the project, but they were unhappy 
with the V3 licence and wanted to continue with V2. As a result 
considerable effort was wasted in getting everyone who had contributed 
patches to the V3 version agreeing to them being "backported" to the V2 
licence.

Ian.

Re: license item

[Carsten Dominik]

On Jun 26, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Ian Barton wrote:

> Sebastian Rose wrote:
>> Isn't it so, that no license means "All Rights Reserved"?
>> Not sure, bu I think in Germany it is...
>> Anyway, if you receive Org-mode with emacs, it has just the same  
>> license
>> as emacs.
> I see Carsten has added a link to the GPL. However, I think it's  
> worthwhile specifically saying which *version* of the GPL.
>
> This might seem a trivial matter. However, I am involved with  
> another project where the maintainer moved the licence from GPL V2  
> to GPL V3, with the best of intentions. A large commercial company  
> wanted to contribute considerable resources to the project, but they  
> were unhappy with the V3 licence and wanted to continue with V2. As  
> a result considerable effort was wasted in getting everyone who had  
> contributed patches to the V3 version agreeing to them being  
> "backported" to the V2 licence.

Interesting.

Being part of Emacs amost forces us to use 3.

- Carsten

Re: license item

[Sebastian Rose]

Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
> On Jun 26, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Ian Barton wrote:
>> I see Carsten has added a link to the GPL. However, I think it's worthwhile
>> specifically saying which *version* of the GPL.
>>
>> This might seem a trivial matter. However, I am involved with another project
>> where the maintainer moved the licence from GPL V2  to GPL V3, with the best
>> of intentions. A large commercial company  wanted to contribute considerable
>> resources to the project, but they  were unhappy with the V3 licence and
>> wanted to continue with V2. As  a result considerable effort was wasted in
>> getting everyone who had  contributed patches to the V3 version agreeing to
>> them being  "backported" to the V2 licence.
>
> Interesting.
>
> Being part of Emacs amost forces us to use 3.


I did that with org-info.js lately after reading a bit about GPL-3 and
seeing this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5G7FU5j2Uc

Sounds like it is good thing, even a neccessary one.


  Sebastian

Re: license item

[Andreas Röhler]

Carsten Dominik wrote:
> This is the Carsten-AI speeking.  Link to GPL on homepage established...
>
> Thank you.

Thanks too. Seeing the progress.

What about to link directly to the license text applying?
Which should provide for the case, people looking for org-mode don't have
much time to spent for this or another reason.

Anyway, understood it's an org-mode for the relaxed. :)

Andreas





>
> On Jun 26, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote:
>
>>
>> --- Ven 26/6/09, Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Anyway, if you receive Org-mode with emacs, it has just the
>>> same license
>>> as emacs.
>>
>> In the site is written:
>> ----------------------------------------
>> It's free!
>>    Org is
>> [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software]
>> [open source software]]
>>
>> , it is free, like Emacs.
>> ------------------------------------------
>>
>> I think that this is enough.
>>
>> If we think that an explicit link to the GPL is necessary
>> we can link:
>>
>> [[http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html][free]] like Emacs
>>
>> or
>>
>> [[http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#GPL][free (GPL)]] like
>>
>> [[http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/][Emacs]]
>>
>>
>> Interestingly enough also the GNU Emacs web page does NOT have
>> an *explicit* link to the licence of Emacs itself
>> neither to "free software" ;-)
>>
>> cheers,
>> Giovanni
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
>
>
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Re: license item

[Carsten Dominik]

On Jun 26, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote:

> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> This is the Carsten-AI speeking.  Link to GPL on homepage  
>> established...
>>
>> Thank you.
>
> Thanks too. Seeing the progress.
>
> What about to link directly to the license text applying?
> Which should provide for the case, people looking for org-mode don't  
> have
> much time to spent for this or another reason.

There is a link to it in the "contributing to Org" section.

- Carsten

>
> Anyway, understood it's an org-mode for the relaxed. :)
>
> Andreas
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> --- Ven 26/6/09, Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, if you receive Org-mode with emacs, it has just the
>>>> same license
>>>> as emacs.
>>>
>>> In the site is written:
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>> It's free!
>>>   Org is
>>> [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software]
>>> [open source software]]
>>>
>>> , it is free, like Emacs.
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> I think that this is enough.
>>>
>>> If we think that an explicit link to the GPL is necessary
>>> we can link:
>>>
>>> [[http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html][free]] like Emacs
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> [[http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#GPL][free (GPL)]] like
>>>
>>> [[http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/][Emacs]]
>>>
>>>
>>> Interestingly enough also the GNU Emacs web page does NOT have
>>> an *explicit* link to the licence of Emacs itself
>>> neither to "free software" ;-)
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Giovanni
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>