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From: Greg Minshall <minshall@umich.edu>
To: Karl Voit <news2042@Karl-Voit.at>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Orgdown: negative feedback & attempt of a root-cause analysis
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2021 11:07:14 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3739136.1638432434@apollo2.minshall.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2021-12-02T00-41-46@devnull.Karl-Voit.at>

Karl,

thanks for all of this, and for writing and posting your blog entry
(words of caution for many).

my thoughts on your project are something like this:

- i think non-emacs tools to deal with org mode files is a Good Thing.

- for me, the main motivation is to allow *me* to share an org mode
  file with someone -- say via a git repo -- and have them be able to do
  something reasonable, if restricted, with it -- extract the code,
  query subtrees or tables, etc. -- without recourse to emacs.

- i think collaborative editing with non-emacs users should be not be a
  goal of *this* endeavor.

- for me, your main invention, and the place (non pro-versus-con)
  discussion should focus, is on your levels: what's at level 1, at what
  level is org-mode itself, etc.  there are some tricky things here
  (e.g., for tables, what to do with hlines, with column width
  specifications, at the various "conformance levels"?)

- and, sigh, i prefer some other name; like "org mode syntax (level 0)".
  maybe it will acronymize into omsl0 (gasp!).  who knows.  i do think
  "orgdown" was a clever choice, but i'm not a fan.

cheers, Greg


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-02  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-28 19:46 "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode Karl Voit
2021-11-28 21:34 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-11-28 21:39   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-11-28 21:50     ` Tom Gillespie
2021-11-28 22:25 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-11-28 22:57   ` Tom Gillespie
2021-11-28 23:16     ` Joost Kremers
2021-11-29  1:36       ` George Mauer
2021-11-29  3:25       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-11-29  7:13         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-11-28 23:24     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-11-29  3:25       ` Devin Prater
2021-12-26 14:54       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-11-29  5:41   ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-11-29 12:18     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-11-29 12:36       ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-11-28 22:42 ` Tim Cross
2021-11-29 13:19   ` Karl Voit
2021-11-29 15:12     ` Matt Price
2021-11-29 18:27     ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-11-30  7:39       ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-11-30 20:44       ` Orgdown: negative feedback & attempt of a root-cause analysis (was: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode) Karl Voit
2021-11-30 22:28         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-11-30 22:50         ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-12-01  0:41         ` Tom Gillespie
2021-12-01  1:12           ` Tim Cross
2021-12-01  3:28           ` Orgdown: negative feedback & attempt of a root-cause analysis Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-01 21:17         ` Orgdown: negative feedback & attempt of a root-cause analysis (was: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode) M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-12-02  6:50           ` Orgdown: negative feedback & attempt of a root-cause analysis Eric S Fraga
2021-12-01 23:43         ` Karl Voit
2021-12-02  1:44           ` Tim Cross
2021-12-02  2:12           ` George Mauer
2021-12-02  8:07           ` Greg Minshall [this message]
2021-11-29  2:22 ` "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode Jim Porter
2021-11-29  2:33   ` Michael Ashton
2021-11-29 12:38     ` Max Nikulin
2021-11-29 12:58     ` Christophe Schockaert
2021-11-30 23:50 ` Samuel Wales
2021-11-30 23:56   ` Samuel Wales

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