Emacs Prelude

Emacs Prelude

[SndChaser]

Is anybody here using Bozhidar Batsov's Emacs Prelude? 
(https://github.com/bbatsov/emacs-prelude)

The reason I as is: by default it disables the Up, Down, Left, right 
keys (in order to try to for users to learn the C-N, C-P, C-F, C-B, etc. 
keys).  This, of course, messes with the structure editing keys (M-Up, 
M-Left, M-S-Up, etc.) So, being a relative n00b to emacs, this brings 
about two questions:

1) Is there a way I can re-hook these keys, just to make them active in 
Org-Mode?

-Or -

2) Has someone bound: org-do-promote, org-do-demote, 
org-promote-subtree. org-demote-subtree, org-move-subtree-up and 
org-move-subtree-down to another set of keys that is as handy / workable 
as the original bindings?

George

-- 
We need to heed the words of the Dalai Lama,
Or at least, the words of your mama.

Re: Emacs Prelude

[Tom Prince]

On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:25:21 -0600, SndChaser <sndchaser@cerebralrift.org> wrote:
> 2) Has someone bound: org-do-promote, org-do-demote, 
> org-promote-subtree. org-demote-subtree, org-move-subtree-up and 
> org-move-subtree-down to another set of keys that is as handy / workable 
> as the original bindings?

Well, I use the vi emulation provided by evil, and have bound
M-{h,j,k,l} to org-meta*:

#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
    (mapcar (lambda (state)
           (evil-declare-key state org-mode-map
             (kbd "M-l") 'org-metaright
             (kbd "M-h") 'org-metaleft
             (kbd "M-k") 'org-metaup
             (kbd "M-j") 'org-metadown
             (kbd "M-L") 'org-shiftmetaright
             (kbd "M-H") 'org-shiftmetaleft
             (kbd "M-K") 'org-shiftmetaup
             (kbd "M-J") 'org-shiftmetadown))
         '(normal insert))
#+END_SRC

  Tom

Re: Emacs Prelude

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

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Hi Tom,

I'm very interested in the "vi emulation in emacs" subject. I've tried
viper-mode but it's quite slow with org, so I gave up on it. What's evil
and how's the vi emulation it provides? Could you elaborate on it? I'd
appreciate it, a lot.

Thanks,

Marcelo.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Tom Prince <tom.prince@ualberta.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:25:21 -0600, SndChaser <sndchaser@cerebralrift.org>
> wrote:
> > 2) Has someone bound: org-do-promote, org-do-demote,
> > org-promote-subtree. org-demote-subtree, org-move-subtree-up and
> > org-move-subtree-down to another set of keys that is as handy / workable
> > as the original bindings?
>
> Well, I use the vi emulation provided by evil, and have bound
> M-{h,j,k,l} to org-meta*:
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
>    (mapcar (lambda (state)
>           (evil-declare-key state org-mode-map
>             (kbd "M-l") 'org-metaright
>             (kbd "M-h") 'org-metaleft
>             (kbd "M-k") 'org-metaup
>             (kbd "M-j") 'org-metadown
>             (kbd "M-L") 'org-shiftmetaright
>             (kbd "M-H") 'org-shiftmetaleft
>             (kbd "M-K") 'org-shiftmetaup
>             (kbd "M-J") 'org-shiftmetadown))
>         '(normal insert))
> #+END_SRC
>
>  Tom
>
>

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Re: Emacs Prelude

[Eric S Fraga]

Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Tom,
>
> I'm very interested in the "vi emulation in emacs" subject. I've tried
> viper-mode but it's quite slow with org, so I gave up on it. What's evil
> and how's the vi emulation it provides? Could you elaborate on it? I'd
> appreciate it, a lot.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marcelo.

Marcelo,

I've been using evil (with org but also more generally) for a few months
now.  It provides a very good vi emulation and, more importantly,
strives to stay out of the way when necessary.  From the commentary in
the evil.el file:

,----
| ;; Evil is an extensible vi layer for Emacs. It emulates the main
| ;; features of Vim, and provides facilities for writing custom
| ;; extensions.
| ;;
| ;; Evil lives in a Git repository. To obtain Evil, do
| ;;
| ;;      git clone git://gitorious.org/evil/evil.git
| ;;
| ;; Evil is discussed at <implementations-list at lists.ourproject.org>,
| ;; a mailing list you can subscribe to at:
| ;;
| ;; http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/implementations-list
| ;;
| ;; Subscription is not required; we usually reply within a few days
| ;; and CC our replies back to you.
`----

If you want modal editing and less cumbersome keystrokes for common
commands, without losing the power that Emacs provides, evil is
definitely worth considering.  I could not go back to vanilla emacs...

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.90.1
: using Org-mode version 7.7 (release_7.7.620.g7e49b)

Re: Emacs Prelude

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

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Wow! Evil is simply awesome! I like that it runs smoothly (differently from
viper-mode, which makes the whole text editing experience very slow when
using orgmode). Kudos to Evil's developers, and thank you for letting us
know about it!

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:

> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I'm very interested in the "vi emulation in emacs" subject. I've tried
> > viper-mode but it's quite slow with org, so I gave up on it. What's evil
> > and how's the vi emulation it provides? Could you elaborate on it? I'd
> > appreciate it, a lot.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Marcelo.
>
> Marcelo,
>
> I've been using evil (with org but also more generally) for a few months
> now.  It provides a very good vi emulation and, more importantly,
> strives to stay out of the way when necessary.  From the commentary in
> the evil.el file:
>
> ,----
> | ;; Evil is an extensible vi layer for Emacs. It emulates the main
> | ;; features of Vim, and provides facilities for writing custom
> | ;; extensions.
> | ;;
> | ;; Evil lives in a Git repository. To obtain Evil, do
> | ;;
> | ;;      git clone git://gitorious.org/evil/evil.git
> | ;;
> | ;; Evil is discussed at <implementations-list at lists.ourproject.org>,
> | ;; a mailing list you can subscribe to at:
> | ;;
> | ;;
> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/implementations-list
> | ;;
> | ;; Subscription is not required; we usually reply within a few days
> | ;; and CC our replies back to you.
> `----
>
> If you want modal editing and less cumbersome keystrokes for common
> commands, without losing the power that Emacs provides, evil is
> definitely worth considering.  I could not go back to vanilla emacs...
>
> --
> : Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.90.1
> : using Org-mode version 7.7 (release_7.7.620.g7e49b)
>

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Re: Emacs Prelude

[Kenny Meyer]

>    (mapcar (lambda (state)
>           (evil-declare-key state org-mode-map
>             (kbd "M-l") 'org-metaright
>             (kbd "M-h") 'org-metaleft
>             (kbd "M-k") 'org-metaup
>             (kbd "M-j") 'org-metadown
>             (kbd "M-L") 'org-shiftmetaright
>             (kbd "M-H") 'org-shiftmetaleft
>             (kbd "M-K") 'org-shiftmetaup
>             (kbd "M-J") 'org-shiftmetadown))
>         '(normal insert))

This feels soooooo good! Thank you for sharing this.

I've only quite recently discovered Evil, which feels quite better
than Viper and is being actively maintained.