Re: Org-mode as a replacement for LaTeX (was: Fwd: Exporting latex without preamble)

[chris.m.malone@gmail.com]

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Hi Tom,

I've seen many of the examples you've added to the mailing list and worg. I  
also enjoy using Org-mode for writing my own documents and webpages -  
currently I'm using it to write my Ph.D. dissertation.

I'm curious how you work on Org-mode papers for publication with  
collaborators? In particular, do all of your collaborators know and use  
Org-mode themselves? Our current method is just to use ordinary LaTeX files  
in a CVS repository for collaboration. I think it would be difficult to get  
my collaborators to all use Org-mode - even though they all use emacs.  
Org-mode has quite a bit of a learning curve that they probably don't have  
the time or patience to learn currently.

Chris

On Jun 30, 2011 2:35am, "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
> Aloha Karl,



> I agree that AucTeX is awesome. I use it every day at work with much

> pleasure.



> I've been using Org-mode with the goal of creating reproducible

> research, where the LaTeX output is just one part of the package. In my

> case, this is something that requires Org-mode for its ability to pass

> results between code blocks written in different languages. I can't do

> these things in AucTeX.



> At first, like you, I was suspicious of adding a layer between me and

> LaTeX. I was impatient with figuring out how to make the little things

> work right. I'm still not able to control LaTeX as finely as I'd like

> from within Org-mode, but I've managed to close the gap sufficiently

> that my last four publications were authored completely with Org-mode.

> The one I'm working on now is Org-mode, too. I'm really liking it as an

> authoring environment.



> All the best,

> Tom





> Karl Voit writes:



> > * Thomas S. Dye tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:

> >> Aloha Rafael,

> >

> > Sorry, I thought you might as well be interested in my point of

> > view.

> >

> > First: I am pretty new to Org-mode but I am using LaTeX a while now

> > and I am even teaching LaTeX to motivated beginners.

> >

> >> Is there a reason not to have everything in one .org file? I find

> >> Org-mode's ability to fold on headlines and to edit subtrees in  
> indirect

> >> buffers very convenient, even for long documents. For my work, that

> >> functionality has replaced LaTeX \include files.

> >

> > I did not follow the thread here but I do think I get the idea that

> > you want to replace LaTeX with Org-mode and generate a PDF via

> > LaTeX/PDF-export functionality of Org-mode.

> >

> > On the one hand, I do agree that (simple) PDF documents are written

> > very easily with Org-mode. But on the other hand you are going to

> > add just another layer. This means that you probably end up wanting

> > this LaTeX feature in Org-mode, that other handy LaTeX feature too

> > and so forth.

> >

> > In my point of view, if you leave the basic stuff, you should stick

> > to LaTeX. And I do have good news to you: You are very fortune

> > because Emacs does have the IMHO most advanced editor support for

> > LaTeX: AucTeX (with all of its extensions like preview-latex and

> > RefTeX).

> >

> > I plan to use Org-mode as an outline tool for larger documents,

> > where the basic structure evolves, keywords are moved from one part

> > to the other. But before I start to write the detailed document

> > content, I move to AucTeX, having the great possibilities for

> > writing documents that end up being great PDFs.

> >

> > But this is just my point of view.



> --

> Thomas S. Dye

> http://www.tsdye.com




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