From: Don Armstrong <don@donarmstrong.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Time-zone in dates
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 12:14:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150707171431.GH6137@geta> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALn3zojFcSu-kVW3ZMK4uZrhqerwgK9Bm9=ibCyTBK4Z3p2rDg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, 01 Jul 2015, Michael Brand wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 30 Jun 2015 at 11:08, Nick Dokos wrote:
> >> In what way are you losing information?
> >
> > Sorry, should have been clear: the time zone information itself. By
> > reducing to UTC, you lose one bit of information. Whether that matters
> > or not in practice is not clear but I'm always uncomfortable when
> > considering data representations that lead to information loss.
> >
> > I've been trying to come up with an example that would illustrate the
> > problem but I've failed so far.
>
> As an example for the above I suggest to consider a non-stop flight
> with a duration of 1:31:00 from Salt Lake City UT to Phoenix AZ, both
> cities in different time zones, here intentionally even the same basic
> time zone but one with daylight saving and one without.
[...]
> 2) When the Org file format would support time zones I would use
>
> * Flight from Salt Lake City UT to Phoenix AZ
> <2015-07-01 Wed 10:55 MDT>--<2015-07-01 Wed 11:26 MST>
> - *Advantage*: Visibility of the time zones where the event takes
> place.
Of course, this is even more complicated, as MST could mean UTC+08,
UTC-07 or UTC+06:30.
That said, lets not make perfect the enemy of the good. I've currently
got emacs running under TZ="America/Los_Angeles" even though my machine
is in TZ="America/Chicago" precisely because org mode can't yet handle
this.
I'd be willing to help out as much as I'm able, too.
--
Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com
I have no use for "before and after" pictures.
I can't remember starting, and I'm never done.
-- a softer world #221
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-07 17:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-26 13:40 Time-zone in dates Oleg Sivokon
2015-06-26 14:12 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-06-26 14:33 ` Left Right
2015-06-26 14:38 ` J. David Boyd
2015-06-26 15:10 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-06-26 19:20 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-06-26 19:57 ` francois
2015-06-26 21:48 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-06-29 13:17 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-06-30 1:17 ` Nick Dokos
2015-06-30 7:36 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-06-30 15:08 ` Nick Dokos
2015-07-01 6:27 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-07-01 10:04 ` Michael Brand
2015-07-01 11:22 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-07-07 17:27 ` Russell Adams
2015-07-08 15:59 ` Don Armstrong
2015-07-08 16:16 ` Russell Adams
2015-07-08 16:40 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-07-08 17:22 ` Titus von der Malsburg
2015-07-07 17:14 ` Don Armstrong [this message]
2015-07-01 15:17 ` Nick Dokos
2015-07-01 22:17 ` Left Right
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