* Customize group, strange behaviour of group org export latex
@ 2013-11-08 20:13 Rasmus Rempling
2013-11-09 17:12 ` Suvayu Ali
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Rasmus Rempling @ 2013-11-08 20:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hello,
I have a question about latex export option and its customization.
If I browse the org export latex group directly after opening emacs and
a .org file the list only give Option Org Export and it looks like this
(observe that I have not done latex export yet:
| [ ]-- Group Org Export XML
| [-]-\ Group Org Export LaTeX
| | |--- Option Org Latex Default Packages Alist
| | |--- Option Org Latex Packages Alist
| | |--- Option Org Export With Tex Macros
| | |--- Option Org Export With Latex Fragments
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Default Class
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Classes
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Emphasis Alist
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Title Command
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Import Inbuffer Stuff
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Date Format
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Todo Keyword Markup
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Timestamp Markup
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Timestamp Keyword Markup
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Tables Verbatim
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Tables Centered
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Tables Column Borders
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Low Levels
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex List Parameters
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Verbatim Wrap
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Listings
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Listings Langs
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Remove From Headlines
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Image Default Option
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Inline Image Extensions
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Coding System
| | [-]-\ Group Org Export LaTeX
| | | `--- Option Org Export Pdf Remove Logfiles
| | `--- Option Org Latex To Pdf Process
| [-]-\ Group Org Export LaTeX
| | `--- Option Org Export Pdf Remove Logfiles
| [+]-- Group Org Export ASCII
However, if I do one latex export, a group of Option Org Latex Classes
is added to the list, then the list looks like this:
| [ ]-- Group Org Export XML
| [-]-\ Group Org Export LaTeX
| | |--- Option Org Latex Default Packages Alist
| | |--- Option Org Latex Packages Alist
| | |--- Option Org Export With Tex Macros
| | |--- Option Org Export With Latex Fragments
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Default Class
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Classes
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Emphasis Alist
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Title Command
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Import Inbuffer Stuff
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Date Format
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Todo Keyword Markup
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Timestamp Markup
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Timestamp Keyword Markup
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Tables Verbatim
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Tables Centered
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Tables Column Borders
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Low Levels
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex List Parameters
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Verbatim Wrap
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Listings
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Listings Langs
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Remove From Headlines
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Image Default Option
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Inline Image Extensions
| | |--- Option Org Export Latex Coding System
| | [+]-- Group Org Export LaTeX
| | |--- Option Org Latex To Pdf Process
| | |--- Option Org Latex Default Class
| | |--- Option Org Latex Classes
| | |--- Option Org Latex Inputenc Alist
| | |--- Option Org Latex Title Command
| | |--- Option Org Latex Toc Command
| | |--- Option Org Latex With Hyperref
| | |--- Option Org Latex Format Headline Function
| | |--- Option Org Latex Footnote Separator
| | |--- Option Org Latex Active Timestamp Format
| | |--- Option Org Latex Inactive Timestamp Format
| | |--- Option Org Latex Diary Timestamp Format
| | |--- Option Org Latex Image Default Option
| | |--- Option Org Latex Image Default Width
| | |--- Option Org Latex Image Default Height
| | |--- Option Org Latex Default Figure Position
| | |--- Option Org Latex Inline Image Rules
| | |--- Option Org Latex Link With Unknown Path Format
| | |--- Option Org Latex Default Table Environment
| | |--- Option Org Latex Default Table Mode
| | |--- Option Org Latex Tables Centered
| | |--- Option Org Latex Tables Booktabs
| | |--- Option Org Latex Table Caption Above
| | |--- Option Org Latex Table Scientific Notation
| | |--- Option Org Latex Text Markup Alist
| | |--- Option Org Latex Format Drawer Function
| | |--- Option Org Latex Format Inlinetask Function
| | |--- Option Org Latex Listings
| | |--- Option Org Latex Listings Langs
| | |--- Option Org Latex Listings Options
| | |--- Option Org Latex Minted Langs
| | |--- Option Org Latex Minted Options
| | |--- Option Org Latex Logfiles Extensions
| | |--- Option Org Latex Remove Logfiles
| | `--- Option Org Latex Known Errors
| [+]-- Group Org Export LaTeX
| [+]-- Group Org Export ASCII
My questions are:
Do you get the same behaviour?
I have not been able to deduce the reason for this behaviour, ?
If I want to add a class should I do this in the (Option Org Export
Latex Classes) or in (Option Org Latex Classes) or in both?
/rasmus
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* Re: Customize group, strange behaviour of group org export latex
2013-11-08 20:13 Customize group, strange behaviour of group org export latex Rasmus Rempling
@ 2013-11-09 17:12 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-11-11 9:32 ` Rasmus Rempling
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Suvayu Ali @ 2013-11-09 17:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi Rasmus,
On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 09:13:50PM +0100, Rasmus Rempling wrote:
>
> I have a question about latex export option and its customization.
>
> If I browse the org export latex group directly after opening emacs and a
> .org file the list only give Option Org Export and it looks like this
[...chomp...chomp...chomp...]
> However, if I do one latex export, a group of Option Org Latex Classes is
> added to the list, then the list looks like this:
>
> | [-]-\ Group Org Export LaTeX
> | | |--- Option Org Latex Default Packages Alist
> | | |--- Option Org Latex Packages Alist
> | | |--- Option Org Export With Tex Macros
> | | |--- Option Org Export With Latex Fragments
> | | |--- Option Org Export Latex Default Class
> | | |--- Option Org Export Latex Classes
I believe this comes from the Org shipped with your version of Emacs.
What is your Emacs version? What does org-version tell you *before* you
load Org or open an .org file? I bet it is 7.xx or older.
> | | [+]-- Group Org Export LaTeX
> | | |--- Option Org Latex To Pdf Process
> | | |--- Option Org Latex Default Class
> | | |--- Option Org Latex Classes
This is the variable you should customise.
> My questions are:
> Do you get the same behaviour?
> I have not been able to deduce the reason for this behaviour, ?
> If I want to add a class should I do this in the (Option Org Export Latex
> Classes) or in (Option Org Latex Classes) or in both?
For more details, see here: <http://orgmode.org/worg/org-8.0.html>
Hope this helps,
--
Suvayu
Open source is the future. It sets us free.
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* Re: Customize group, strange behaviour of group org export latex
2013-11-09 17:12 ` Suvayu Ali
@ 2013-11-11 9:32 ` Rasmus Rempling
2013-11-11 10:30 ` Suvayu Ali
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Rasmus Rempling @ 2013-11-11 9:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi Suvayu,
Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> I believe this comes from the Org shipped with your version of Emacs.
> What is your Emacs version? What does org-version tell you *before* you
> load Org or open an .org file? I bet it is 7.xx or older.
Before loading an org-file the versions are:
GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10), Org-mode
version 8.2.2 (release_8.2.2-181-gf31eb4
and after loading an org-file
GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10), Org-mode
version 8.2.2 (release_8.2.2-181-gf31eb4
I get the strange behaviour with this versions. And I cant see why this
would be an issue.
But of course if I exclude the load path to the git version in my .emacs I
get (before and after loading an org-file):
GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10), Org-mode
version 6.33x.
Are you referring to that the version 6.33 is interfering with the 8.2.2
version, even though I am loading version 8.2.2 in my .emacs?
>
> > | | [+]-- Group Org Export LaTeX
> > | | |--- Option Org Latex To Pdf Process
> > | | |--- Option Org Latex Default Class
> > | | |--- Option Org Latex Classes
>
> This is the variable you should customise.
>
Tank you!
/rasmus
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* Re: Customize group, strange behaviour of group org export latex
2013-11-11 9:32 ` Rasmus Rempling
@ 2013-11-11 10:30 ` Suvayu Ali
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Suvayu Ali @ 2013-11-11 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hello Rasmus,
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 09:32:06AM +0000, Rasmus Rempling wrote:
> Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> >
> > I believe this comes from the Org shipped with your version of Emacs.
> > What is your Emacs version? What does org-version tell you *before* you
> > load Org or open an .org file? I bet it is 7.xx or older.
>
> Before loading an org-file the versions are:
> GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10), Org-mode
> version 8.2.2 (release_8.2.2-181-gf31eb4
>
> and after loading an org-file
> GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10), Org-mode
> version 8.2.2 (release_8.2.2-181-gf31eb4
Org is often loaded before opening any .org files. This depends on your
setup (i.e. your init file). In your init file if you do something
like:
(require 'org)
(my-custom-stuff)
Org is already loaded by the time Emacs starts.
> I get the strange behaviour with this versions. And I cant see why this
> would be an issue.
>
> But of course if I exclude the load path to the git version in my .emacs I
> get (before and after loading an org-file):
> GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10), Org-mode
> version 6.33x.
>
> Are you referring to that the version 6.33 is interfering with the 8.2.2
> version, even though I am loading version 8.2.2 in my .emacs?
Yes. This version of Org mode has variables that are not present in the
latest Org. So in the customise menu you see a mix of all. You can
verify this by doing `C-h v org-export-latex-classes RET'. The help
buffer should tell you which file defines the variable; if I am right,
it should point to the Org bundled with Emacs.
There is an expreimental recipe by Achim to kill these deprecated
variables. You can find it here:
<https://github.com/suvayu/.emacs.d/blob/master/kill-old-org.el>
Note that the above snippet should be loaded before you load the latest
Org: see lines 16-18 in
<https://github.com/suvayu/.emacs.d/blob/master/init.el>
Hope this helps,
--
Suvayu
Open source is the future. It sets us free.
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