From: Olivier Schwander <olivier.schwander@chadok.info>
To: Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode mailing list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Formal description of Org files
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 14:37:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110420123741.GA21304@buga.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2970.1302892280@alphaville.americas.hpqcorp.net>
Le 15 Apr 2011 14:31, Nick Dokos a écrit:
> Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If one goal of such a formal description of Org-mode would be to parse
> > text Org-mode files into an abstract syntax tree ...
> >
>
> I think this should be the starting point: what are the goals for all this?
> Providing a formal description in EBNF is one thing. Preparing an attribute
> grammar for input into a specific tool is another (and probably an order of
> magnitude - or two - harder) - what would the resulting parser(s) be used for?
>
> Clear(er) answers to these questions should go a long way towards figuring out
> what specific tool(s) should be used - or whether it's at all necessary to
> worry about that.
The primary goal I see for such a formal description is to provide a
specification that third party parsers are supposed to respect. Writing
a real parser may be too much project specific and difficult to
generalize in a way usable by the community.
During the development of neo[1], I was confronted to the need of
defining what is an org file (actually, what is an headline, a todo
keyword, a tag, a drawer, a timestamp, etc) and determining what is the
expected output of a parser.
Maybe the most appropriate format for such a description would be free
text, letting parser developers choosing between context-free grammars,
regexps or whatever they want ( with a bunch of example org files for
reference and tests).
Regards,
Olivier
[1] I am just discovering this thread
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-20 12:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-15 7:58 Formal description of Org files Carsten Dominik
2011-04-15 8:54 ` Rainer Stengele
2011-04-15 10:57 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-04-15 11:50 ` Peter Frings
2011-04-15 12:05 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-04-15 15:25 ` Jambunathan K
2011-04-20 11:57 ` Olaf.Hamann
2011-04-15 12:58 ` Christian Egli
2011-04-15 13:42 ` Peter Frings
2011-04-15 13:52 ` Filippo A. Salustri
2011-04-15 14:20 ` Wes Hardaker
2011-04-15 17:29 ` Eric Schulte
2011-04-15 18:31 ` Nick Dokos
2011-04-20 12:37 ` Olivier Schwander [this message]
2011-07-15 18:07 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2011-07-16 16:56 ` Bastien
2011-07-16 17:09 ` Nick Dokos
2011-07-16 17:12 ` Bastien
2011-07-16 18:00 ` Searching the org list (was: Formal description of Org files) Memnon Anon
2011-07-16 18:21 ` Formal description of Org files suvayu ali
2011-07-16 18:43 ` Nick Dokos
2011-07-17 23:14 ` Eric Schulte
2011-07-18 9:30 ` Christopher Witte
2011-07-18 23:32 ` Bastien
2011-07-18 21:02 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2011-07-18 21:03 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2011-07-18 11:04 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2011-07-18 23:35 ` Bastien
2011-07-19 6:16 ` Jambunathan K
2011-07-24 18:58 ` Bastien
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-04-15 17:13 Rustom Mody
2011-04-15 17:27 ` MidLifeXis at PerlMonks
2014-09-21 12:10 Gustav Wikström
2014-09-21 12:43 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-10-02 8:28 ` Samuel Loury
2014-10-02 17:03 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-10-04 19:49 ` Gustav Wikström
2014-09-26 8:12 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-09-26 12:53 ` Grant Rettke
2014-09-26 20:51 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-10-04 19:41 ` Gustav Wikström
2014-10-06 14:22 ` Samuel Loury
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