* New Screencast: Setting Up Org-mode for Windows
@ 2010-11-05 21:52 Russell Adams
2010-11-07 17:08 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Russell Adams @ 2010-11-05 21:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
I've just posted a new thirty minute screencast on setting up Org-mode
in Windows to Vimeo.
http://vimeo.com/16533939
Included are:
- Downloading and configuring Emacs for Windows
- Downloading and installing the latest Org-mode
- Setting up a working agenda
- Setting up capture for the agenda
- Windows native popup reminders from Agenda entries
- Setting up and use of one touch timestamps
Under my sig are the snippets I used in the video.
Enjoy!
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;;; Agenda Icon Shortcut: "C:\Program Files\emacs-23.2\bin\runemacs.exe" -f org-agenda-list
;;;;;; start Popup.vbs
; On Error Resume Next
; Msgbox WScript.Arguments(0),0,"Org-Mode Agenda Reminder"
;;;;;; end
;; .emacs customizations
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Installing
;; Load org-mode
(add-to-list 'load-path "c:/Org/org-7.3/lisp")
(add-to-list 'load-path "c:/Org/org-7.3/contrib/lisp")
(require 'org)
;; The following lines are always needed. Choose your own keys.
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.org\\'" . org-mode))
(add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock) ; not needed when global-font-lock-mode is on
(global-set-key "\C-cl" 'org-store-link)
(global-set-key "\C-ca" 'org-agenda)
(global-set-key "\C-cb" 'org-iswitchb)
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Capture
;; Capture
(global-set-key (kbd "C-c r") 'org-capture)
(setq org-capture-templates
'(("t" "Agenda Todo" entry
(file+headline "c:/Org/MyAgenda.org" "Agenda")
"\n\n** TODO %?\n%T\n\n%i\n%a\n\n\n"
:empty-lines 1)
("n" "Agenda Notes" entry
(file+headline "c:/Org/MyAgenda.org" "Agenda")
"\n\n** %?\n%T\n%i\n%a\n\n\n"
:empty-lines 1)))
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Popups
;; Get appointments for today
(defun my-org-agenda-to-appt ()
(interactive)
(setq appt-time-msg-list nil)
(run-at-time "24:01" nil 'my-org-agenda-to-appt)
(let ((org-deadline-warning-days 0)) ;; will be automatic in org 5.23
(org-agenda-to-appt)))
;;; Disabled so that I can open multiple emacs without org loading agenda files.
(appt-activate t)
;; 5 minute warning
(setq appt-message-warning-time '60)
(setq appt-display-interval '15)
;; Update appt each time agenda opened.
(add-hook 'org-finalize-agenda-hook 'my-org-agenda-to-appt)
;; Setup agenda popup, we tell appt to use window, and replace default function
(setq appt-display-format 'window)
(setq appt-disp-window-function (function my-appt-disp-window))
(defun my-appt-disp-window (min-to-app new-time msg)
(save-window-excursion
(shell-command
(concat
"c:/windows/system32/cscript.exe //nologo c:/Org/Popup.vbs \"" msg "\"") nil nil)))
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Timestamps
;; Insert immediate timestamp
(setq org-agenda-skip-additional-timestamps nil)
(define-key global-map (kbd "<f9>")
'(lambda () (interactive)
(when (eq major-mode 'org-mode)
(org-insert-time-stamp nil t t)
(insert "\n"))))
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* Re: New Screencast: Setting Up Org-mode for Windows
2010-11-05 21:52 New Screencast: Setting Up Org-mode for Windows Russell Adams
@ 2010-11-07 17:08 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-11-07 17:17 ` Russell Adams
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-11-07 17:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Russell Adams; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Russel,
Just looked at the screencast over breakfast (I am in Austin right
now..)
Great work! Is this already linked from Worg?
- Carsten
On Nov 5, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Russell Adams wrote:
> I've just posted a new thirty minute screencast on setting up Org-mode
> in Windows to Vimeo.
>
> http://vimeo.com/16533939
>
> Included are:
>
> - Downloading and configuring Emacs for Windows
> - Downloading and installing the latest Org-mode
> - Setting up a working agenda
> - Setting up capture for the agenda
> - Windows native popup reminders from Agenda entries
> - Setting up and use of one touch timestamps
>
> Under my sig are the snippets I used in the video.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com
>
> PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/
>
> Fingerprint: 1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ;;; Agenda Icon Shortcut: "C:\Program Files\emacs-23.2\bin
> \runemacs.exe" -f org-agenda-list
>
> ;;;;;; start Popup.vbs
> ; On Error Resume Next
> ; Msgbox WScript.Arguments(0),0,"Org-Mode Agenda Reminder"
> ;;;;;; end
>
> ;; .emacs customizations
>
> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Installing
> ;; Load org-mode
> (add-to-list 'load-path "c:/Org/org-7.3/lisp")
> (add-to-list 'load-path "c:/Org/org-7.3/contrib/lisp")
> (require 'org)
>
> ;; The following lines are always needed. Choose your own keys.
> (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.org\\'" . org-mode))
> (add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock) ; not needed when
> global-font-lock-mode is on
> (global-set-key "\C-cl" 'org-store-link)
> (global-set-key "\C-ca" 'org-agenda)
> (global-set-key "\C-cb" 'org-iswitchb)
>
>
> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Capture
> ;; Capture
> (global-set-key (kbd "C-c r") 'org-capture)
> (setq org-capture-templates
> '(("t" "Agenda Todo" entry
> (file+headline "c:/Org/MyAgenda.org" "Agenda")
> "\n\n** TODO %?\n%T\n\n%i\n%a\n\n\n"
> :empty-lines 1)
>
> ("n" "Agenda Notes" entry
> (file+headline "c:/Org/MyAgenda.org" "Agenda")
> "\n\n** %?\n%T\n%i\n%a\n\n\n"
> :empty-lines 1)))
>
>
> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Popups
> ;; Get appointments for today
> (defun my-org-agenda-to-appt ()
> (interactive)
> (setq appt-time-msg-list nil)
> (run-at-time "24:01" nil 'my-org-agenda-to-appt)
> (let ((org-deadline-warning-days 0)) ;; will be automatic in
> org 5.23
> (org-agenda-to-appt)))
>
> ;;; Disabled so that I can open multiple emacs without org loading
> agenda files.
> (appt-activate t)
>
> ;; 5 minute warning
> (setq appt-message-warning-time '60)
> (setq appt-display-interval '15)
>
> ;; Update appt each time agenda opened.
> (add-hook 'org-finalize-agenda-hook 'my-org-agenda-to-appt)
>
> ;; Setup agenda popup, we tell appt to use window, and replace
> default function
> (setq appt-display-format 'window)
> (setq appt-disp-window-function (function my-appt-disp-window))
>
> (defun my-appt-disp-window (min-to-app new-time msg)
> (save-window-excursion
> (shell-command
> (concat
> "c:/windows/system32/cscript.exe //nologo c:/Org/Popup.vbs \""
> msg "\"") nil nil)))
>
>
> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Timestamps
> ;; Insert immediate timestamp
> (setq org-agenda-skip-additional-timestamps nil)
> (define-key global-map (kbd "<f9>")
> '(lambda () (interactive)
> (when (eq major-mode 'org-mode)
> (org-insert-time-stamp nil t t)
> (insert "\n"))))
>
>
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* Re: New Screencast: Setting Up Org-mode for Windows
2010-11-07 17:08 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-11-07 17:17 ` Russell Adams
2010-11-08 0:12 ` Stefan Vollmar
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Russell Adams @ 2010-11-07 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 11:08:05AM -0600, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Hi Russel,
>
> Just looked at the screencast over breakfast (I am in Austin right
> now..)
> Great work! Is this already linked from Worg?
>
> - Carsten
Carsten,
I just added it to Worg this morning. I forgot I had commit rights. ;]
I've been overwhelmed by the number of views on Vimeo, in 48 hours it
was already watched over 100 times!
I'm working to refine my recording rig, and I may do some more soon.
Thanks.
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* Re: New Screencast: Setting Up Org-mode for Windows
2010-11-07 17:17 ` Russell Adams
@ 2010-11-08 0:12 ` Stefan Vollmar
2010-11-08 1:02 ` Russell Adams
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Vollmar @ 2010-11-08 0:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Russell Adams; +Cc: emacs-orgmode mailing list
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Dear Russell,
I was one of the Vimeo watchers: excellent!
I was so impressed with the part about popup notifications, that I tried to get it running on the Mac. Many users who have Emacs on the Mac will use growl, http://growl.info, a free notification system.
The shell command of your my-appt-disp-window() function can be adapted to use growl's optional commandline interface in this way:
"growlnotify -s -m \"" msg "\""
This will produce a beautiful (and sticky) popup window, one can add an optional icon and a priority (and lots of styles for the graphical appearance).
Warm regards,
Stefan
On 07.11.2010, at 18:17, Russell Adams wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 11:08:05AM -0600, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> Hi Russel,
>>
>> Just looked at the screencast over breakfast (I am in Austin right
>> now..)
>> Great work! Is this already linked from Worg?
>>
>> - Carsten
>
> Carsten,
>
> I just added it to Worg this morning. I forgot I had commit rights. ;]
>
> I've been overwhelmed by the number of views on Vimeo, in 48 hours it
> was already watched over 100 times!
>
> I'm working to refine my recording rig, and I may do some more soon.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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>
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* Re: New Screencast: Setting Up Org-mode for Windows
2010-11-08 0:12 ` Stefan Vollmar
@ 2010-11-08 1:02 ` Russell Adams
2010-11-08 3:50 ` Sunny Srivastava
2010-11-08 20:28 ` Sébastien Vauban
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Russell Adams @ 2010-11-08 1:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode mailing list
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 01:12:43AM +0100, Stefan Vollmar wrote:
> Dear Russell,
>
> I was one of the Vimeo watchers: excellent!
>
> I was so impressed with the part about popup notifications, that I tried to get it running on the Mac. Many users who have Emacs on the Mac will use growl, http://growl.info, a free notification system.
>
> The shell command of your my-appt-disp-window() function can be adapted to use growl's optional commandline interface in this way:
>
> "growlnotify -s -m \"" msg "\""
>
> This will produce a beautiful (and sticky) popup window, one can add an optional icon and a priority (and lots of styles for the graphical appearance).
>
That's fantastic! I use kdialog myself on linux, and had to find a
compatible method for Windows. It has occurred to me that Emacs itself
uses popups, but I'm not sure how...
I can't take credit for figuring out how to get the agenda to do the
popups, I just adapted that from another post here.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks.
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* Re: New Screencast: Setting Up Org-mode for Windows
2010-11-08 1:02 ` Russell Adams
@ 2010-11-08 3:50 ` Sunny Srivastava
2010-11-08 20:28 ` Sébastien Vauban
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Sunny Srivastava @ 2010-11-08 3:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode mailing list
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Dear Russell,
I am a newbie in org-mode-world. Thanks a lot for uploading an informative
video.
Best Regards,
S.
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Russell Adams <RLAdams@adamsinfoserv.com>wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 01:12:43AM +0100, Stefan Vollmar wrote:
> > Dear Russell,
> >
> > I was one of the Vimeo watchers: excellent!
> >
> > I was so impressed with the part about popup notifications, that I tried
> to get it running on the Mac. Many users who have Emacs on the Mac will use
> growl, http://growl.info, a free notification system.
> >
> > The shell command of your my-appt-disp-window() function can be adapted
> to use growl's optional commandline interface in this way:
> >
> > "growlnotify -s -m \"" msg "\""
> >
> > This will produce a beautiful (and sticky) popup window, one can add an
> optional icon and a priority (and lots of styles for the graphical
> appearance).
> >
>
> That's fantastic! I use kdialog myself on linux, and had to find a
> compatible method for Windows. It has occurred to me that Emacs itself
> uses popups, but I'm not sure how...
>
> I can't take credit for figuring out how to get the agenda to do the
> popups, I just adapted that from another post here.
>
> Glad you enjoyed it!
>
> Thanks.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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* Re: New Screencast: Setting Up Org-mode for Windows
2010-11-08 1:02 ` Russell Adams
2010-11-08 3:50 ` Sunny Srivastava
@ 2010-11-08 20:28 ` Sébastien Vauban
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-11-08 20:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
Hi Russell,
Russell Adams wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 01:12:43AM +0100, Stefan Vollmar wrote:
>> I was so impressed with the part about popup notifications, that I tried to
>> get it running on the Mac. Many users who have Emacs on the Mac will use
>> growl, http://growl.info, a free notification system.
>>
>> The shell command of your my-appt-disp-window() function can be adapted to
>> use growl's optional commandline interface in this way:
>>
>> "growlnotify -s -m \"" msg "\""
>>
>> This will produce a beautiful (and sticky) popup window, one can add an
>> optional icon and a priority (and lots of styles for the graphical
>> appearance).
>
> That's fantastic! I use kdialog myself on linux, and had to find a
> compatible method for Windows. It has occurred to me that Emacs itself uses
> popups, but I'm not sure how...
>
> I can't take credit for figuring out how to get the agenda to do the popups,
> I just adapted that from another post here.
Never tested it myself, but I have the following comment in my .emacs file,
for if...
;; For Windows users: use `todochicku.el' and the snarl notifier
Best regards,
Seb
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* Re: New Screencast: Setting Up Org-mode for Windows
[not found] <201011081706.oA8H65QA021421@hormel5.ieee.org>
@ 2010-11-08 22:07 ` Raymond Zeitler
2010-11-08 22:34 ` Russell Adams
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Raymond Zeitler @ 2010-11-08 22:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode; +Cc: 'Russell Adams'
Thanks for creating this, Russell. It's great!
I've already set my system up per John Wiegley's tutorial. I didn't
appreciate Org until I started to use capture, so I'm glad you introduced it
early on. And I like how you pointed out org-capture-templates. I'm at the
point where I'm changing some settings, so it's nice to see where things are
defined.
Also neat is the idea of notification. But I wonder if some folks might
have VBS disabled. For them, I'd recommend using the Net Send command. Net
Send can also broadcast to multiple users on a domain, which may (or may
not) be a nice thing. I can imagine an IT person using Org-mode with Net
Send to notify everyone about a server reboot.
Some other things that are new to me:
* AddPM (never used it)
* -f switch to run Lisp and the shortcut to Agenda
* latest version is now 7.3
* Timestamps & Workflow
* C-c [
* lots more
Invoking Customize is a nice way to establish the .emacs. But I would've
mentioned C-x C-f ~/.e<TAB> after the second customization, though. :)
All the best!
Oh, BTW, is there a tutorial on how to set up a Worg account for Windows
users?
--
Raymond Zeitler <r.zeitler@ieee.org>
On Nov 5, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Russell Adams wrote:
> I've just posted a new thirty minute screencast on setting up Org-mode
> in Windows to Vimeo.
>
> http://vimeo.com/16533939
>
> Included are:
>
> - Downloading and configuring Emacs for Windows
> - Downloading and installing the latest Org-mode
> - Setting up a working agenda
> - Setting up capture for the agenda
> - Windows native popup reminders from Agenda entries
> - Setting up and use of one touch timestamps
>
> Under my sig are the snippets I used in the video.
>
> Enjoy!
-snip-
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* Re: New Screencast: Setting Up Org-mode for Windows
2010-11-08 22:07 ` Raymond Zeitler
@ 2010-11-08 22:34 ` Russell Adams
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Russell Adams @ 2010-11-08 22:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 05:07:29PM -0500, Raymond Zeitler wrote:
>
> Thanks for creating this, Russell. It's great!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
> I've already set my system up per John Wiegley's tutorial. I didn't
> appreciate Org until I started to use capture, so I'm glad you introduced it
> early on. And I like how you pointed out org-capture-templates. I'm at the
> point where I'm changing some settings, so it's nice to see where things are
> defined.
Capture is a must. Working a project is one thing, but its how to deal
with the nonstop little things that counts.
> Also neat is the idea of notification. But I wonder if some folks might
> have VBS disabled. For them, I'd recommend using the Net Send command. Net
> Send can also broadcast to multiple users on a domain, which may (or may
> not) be a nice thing. I can imagine an IT person using Org-mode with Net
> Send to notify everyone about a server reboot.
I'm not a Windows guy, so I'm not sure. I used VBS because it appeared
that between Windows 2k, XP, and 2003 that NET SEND may have
changed. I've now had a few people suggest Growl for Mac and Windows.
> Some other things that are new to me:
> * AddPM (never used it)
> * -f switch to run Lisp and the shortcut to Agenda
Useful!
> * latest version is now 7.3
> * Timestamps & Workflow
I love the one touch timestamps, it's been central to all of my work.
> * C-c [
> * lots more
>
> Invoking Customize is a nice way to establish the .emacs. But I would've
> mentioned C-x C-f ~/.e<TAB> after the second customization, though. :)
Yeah that was a bit repetitious. On the other hand I didn't know that
emacs would tab complete ~ on Windows, I was using the "native"
interface. ;]
Thanks!
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