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From: Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Inline code :results replace not working
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:42:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <oluh9y7e0z5.fsf@med.uni-goettingen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 86y4rj2tm1.fsf@example.com

Hi Sebastien,

Sebastien Vauban <sva-news@mygooglest.com> writes:
> Andreas Leha wrote:
>> Sebastien Vauban <sva-news@mygooglest.com> writes:
>>> Andreas Leha wrote:
>>>>> For me, that's the correct behavior, as inline code blocks are
>>>>> *only expected to be evaluated during export*.
>>>>
>>>> I disagree here.
>>>
>>> Though, this is what Eric Schulte wrote:
>>>
>>>   ┌────
>>>   │ Currently inline blocks like don't associate themselves with their
>>>   │ results, they are only expected to be evaluated on export.
>>>   └────
>>>
>>> If things have changed, I'm not aware of it.
>>>
>>>> As limiting the use of inline code to eval-on-export-only renders
>>>> all the org-babel-execute-subtree and related functionality useless.
>>
>> I have been using inline results for reports quite a bit, but not
>> lately.  I might be wrong here, but from my memory they used to work
>> (i.e. were replaceable) for a while (at least when 'wrapped') unless
>> they were set to produce 'raw' results (which was a serious limitation
>> and led me to change my workflow).
>>
>> PS: a quick check reveals that they are indeed not replaceable (even
>> when wrapped)
>>
>> Nonetheless, from a literate programming perspective, I think that
>> replaceable (and raw) inline results are definitely desirable.
>> Regardless of the state of their implementation in orgmode right now.
>
> FWIW, I'm not -- yet? -- convinced we should see the results of inline
> code blocks inlined in the paragraph (and I'm not sure either it does
> not cause interpretation problems); but, for sure, I'd love to be able
> to preview the value interactively, at least.
>
>> So, I do not doubt, that you and Nicolas are right with that
>> replaceable inline results are not implemented and are -- from
>> orgmodes perspective -- expected to be evaluated only during export.
>>
>> My message was meant more as a feature request saying that I consider
>> replaceable inline results useful and would like to see them supported
>> by org.
>
> Could you better explain your statement: "Limiting the use of inline
> code to eval-on-export-only renders all the org-babel-execute-subtree
> and related functionality useless"?
>
> I'm not sure to fully understand your use-case.  That'd certainly be
> worth explaining why you think it must be changed in the first instance
> if you'd like Eric or Nicolas (or someone else) to change that.
>

Consider this simple toy example.  If you press 'C-c C-v s' in the
subtree, the document is 'broken' for export.  If you press 'C-c C-v s'
twice or more the document is 'broken' even for display.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
#+PROPERTY: header-args:R :session *testR*

* Simplistic Literate Program

Let us generate some data $X$ with

#+begin_src R :exports code :results none
  X <- rnorm(1:1000) 
#+end_src

and plot the density of it

#+begin_src R :results graphics :file test.png :exports both
  plot(density(X)) 
#+end_src

#+results:
[[file:test.png]]

This data has mean src_R{mean(X)}.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Regards,
Andreas

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-10 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-07 10:01 Inline code :results replace not working mcg
2014-11-08 21:27 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-11-10  9:21   ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-11-10  9:40     ` Andreas Leha
2014-11-10 10:27       ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-11-10 10:56         ` Andreas Leha
2014-11-10 11:16           ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-11-10 11:42             ` Andreas Leha [this message]
2014-11-10 16:23               ` Charles C. Berry
2014-11-10 17:03                 ` Ista Zahn
2014-11-10 20:04                   ` Grant Rettke
2014-11-10 20:45                     ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-11-10 21:26                       ` Grant Rettke
2014-11-11  1:53                     ` Ista Zahn
2014-11-11 14:37                       ` Grant Rettke
2014-11-13 18:40                       ` Michael
2014-11-14 15:11                         ` Grant Rettke
2014-11-12  9:03                 ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-11-12 17:26                   ` Charles Berry

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