From: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Collaborative Team Project Management with Orgmode?
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:45:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2zj1fayhy.fsf@andrew.cmu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zj1htskm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>
>
> Let's see... the org-contacts vs BBDB issue isn't a big deal, since
> Gnorb doesn't actually do all that much with contacts right now. I'd be
> happy to add tweaks to it to make it more org-contacts friendly.
>
> Email tracking is a bigger issue. Gnorb uses the Gnus registry to track
> correspondences between messages and headlines, and obviously none of
> that would work with mu4e.
>
> Earlier versions did tracking by storing message ids as a property on a
> headline. I suppose I could go back to doing that in a mu4e-specific
> library.
Message id tracking is likely the way to do it in mu4e. mu4e links seem
to store this for links.
[[mu4e:msgid:BN3PR0301MB0851DB3E4C53993DAA1E8A98B2610@BN3PR0301MB0851.namprd03.prod.outlook.com]]
>
> To me, the most useful thing about message tracking isn't the
> identification and hinting of incoming emails. The two most useful
> things (I think) are:
>
> 1. Taking a message and saying "this message should trigger a state
> change on that Org heading there"
> 2. Seeing all messages associated with a heading in their own virtual
> "mailbox"
>
> Number one shouldn't be too difficult to implement for mu4e, as it would
> mostly rely on Org's own mu4e support. Number two would be nearly
> impossible, or at least impractical given my lack of familiarity with
> mu4e.
I am still learning many things about emails. mu4e has pretty powerful
search capability via the underlying Xapian database.
>
> Another thing I find hugely useful is automatically transferring files
> attached to incoming messages to Org headings (via org-attach).
> Presumably mu4e has a way of getting at the attachments on a message, so
> in theory this wouldn't be that hard, either.
This sounds pretty interesting. I have never gotten that into
attachments, but this might change my mind. There are functions in mu4e
to view and save attachments, so this might not be hard.
I am pretty interested in pursuing this, but am pretty busy for a while
so progress on my end will be slow ;(
>
> Anyway, those are some thoughts on the issue. If you all had some
> particular feature where you'd like mu4e support, let me know and I can
> take a stab at it.
>
> Eric
>
>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Eric Abrahamsen
>> <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>
>> > unless those services have some kind of API, and you have the
>> desire to
>> > implement it in emacs, you might be out of luck.
>> >
>> > I am trying to figure out a way to do collaborative work via
>> email,
>> > where I am the project coordinator. The idea is to use my
>> email.el code
>> > to send headlines to people I need information or action from,
>> and then
>> > to have them reply to the email. Then, I would have some easy
>> way to get
>> > information out of the reply back to the heading (e.g. TODO
>> state
>> > change, info etc...). Probably I would embed some org-id link in
>> the email,
>> > and "train" the users not to delete it. This is only a
>> half-baked idea
>> > so far.
>> >
>> > It would integrate org-contacts, mu4e, and org-mode in my setup.
>>
>> Sounds exactly like Gnorb! Except org-contacts instead of BBDB,
>> and mu4e
>> instead of Gnus :(
>>
>> > depending in your role in the project, you might get something
>> like that
>> > to work too.
>> >
>> > Tory S. Anderson writes:
>> >
>> >> I've relied on Orgmode heavily for over half a decade, and I'm
>> >> loathe to leave it. But what solutions have been found out
>> there
>> >> for using it collaboratively (where others are not using
>> emacs),
>> >> rather than just for personal task management (where it
>> excels)?
>> >> It has some integration with Trello, I know; some of my
>> co-workers
>> >> are advocating BaseCamp (...) and PivotalTracker.
>> PivotalTracker
>> >> looks pretty good, but I would rather find a way to leverage
>> >> orgmode in a way that facilitates collaboration. What has
>> worked
>> >> for you?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Professor John Kitchin
>> > Doherty Hall A207F
>> > Department of Chemical Engineering
>> > Carnegie Mellon University
>> > Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>> > 412-268-7803
>> > @johnkitchin
>> > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-25 20:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-21 15:33 Collaborative Team Project Management with Orgmode? Tory S. Anderson
2015-08-23 11:25 ` John Kitchin
2015-08-23 16:39 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-08-23 16:47 ` John Kitchin
2015-08-23 17:15 ` Peter Salazar
2015-08-24 0:53 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-08-25 20:45 ` John Kitchin [this message]
2015-08-26 4:27 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-08-26 10:59 ` John Kitchin
2015-08-27 3:29 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-08-23 11:41 ` Ken Mankoff
2015-08-23 12:48 ` Bill Burdick
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