From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: Collaborative Team Project Management with Orgmode? Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:45:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87mvxk3bcm.fsf@torysa-worldsendless.byu.edu> <8737zanelb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zj1htskm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33185) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUL5t-0004xp-2U for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:45:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUL5p-0000yC-Io for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:45:20 -0400 Received: from mail-qg0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c04::231]:35752) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUL5p-0000wk-DN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:45:17 -0400 Received: by qgj62 with SMTP id 62so114216698qgj.2 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:45:17 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: <87zj1htskm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > Let's see... the org-contacts vs BBDB issue isn't a big deal, since > Gnorb doesn't actually do all that much with contacts right now. I'd be > happy to add tweaks to it to make it more org-contacts friendly. > > Email tracking is a bigger issue. Gnorb uses the Gnus registry to track > correspondences between messages and headlines, and obviously none of > that would work with mu4e. > > Earlier versions did tracking by storing message ids as a property on a > headline. I suppose I could go back to doing that in a mu4e-specific > library. Message id tracking is likely the way to do it in mu4e. mu4e links seem to store this for links. [[mu4e:msgid:BN3PR0301MB0851DB3E4C53993DAA1E8A98B2610@BN3PR0301MB0851.namprd03.prod.outlook.com]] > > To me, the most useful thing about message tracking isn't the > identification and hinting of incoming emails. The two most useful > things (I think) are: > > 1. Taking a message and saying "this message should trigger a state > change on that Org heading there" > 2. Seeing all messages associated with a heading in their own virtual > "mailbox" > > Number one shouldn't be too difficult to implement for mu4e, as it would > mostly rely on Org's own mu4e support. Number two would be nearly > impossible, or at least impractical given my lack of familiarity with > mu4e. I am still learning many things about emails. mu4e has pretty powerful search capability via the underlying Xapian database. > > Another thing I find hugely useful is automatically transferring files > attached to incoming messages to Org headings (via org-attach). > Presumably mu4e has a way of getting at the attachments on a message, so > in theory this wouldn't be that hard, either. This sounds pretty interesting. I have never gotten that into attachments, but this might change my mind. There are functions in mu4e to view and save attachments, so this might not be hard. I am pretty interested in pursuing this, but am pretty busy for a while so progress on my end will be slow ;( > > Anyway, those are some thoughts on the issue. If you all had some > particular feature where you'd like mu4e support, let me know and I can > take a stab at it. > > Eric > >> On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Eric Abrahamsen >> wrote: >> >> >> John Kitchin writes: >> >> > unless those services have some kind of API, and you have the >> desire to >> > implement it in emacs, you might be out of luck. >> > >> > I am trying to figure out a way to do collaborative work via >> email, >> > where I am the project coordinator. The idea is to use my >> email.el code >> > to send headlines to people I need information or action from, >> and then >> > to have them reply to the email. Then, I would have some easy >> way to get >> > information out of the reply back to the heading (e.g. TODO >> state >> > change, info etc...). Probably I would embed some org-id link in >> the email, >> > and "train" the users not to delete it. This is only a >> half-baked idea >> > so far. >> > >> > It would integrate org-contacts, mu4e, and org-mode in my setup. >> >> Sounds exactly like Gnorb! Except org-contacts instead of BBDB, >> and mu4e >> instead of Gnus :( >> >> > depending in your role in the project, you might get something >> like that >> > to work too. >> > >> > Tory S. Anderson writes: >> > >> >> I've relied on Orgmode heavily for over half a decade, and I'm >> >> loathe to leave it. But what solutions have been found out >> there >> >> for using it collaboratively (where others are not using >> emacs), >> >> rather than just for personal task management (where it >> excels)? >> >> It has some integration with Trello, I know; some of my >> co-workers >> >> are advocating BaseCamp (...) and PivotalTracker. >> PivotalTracker >> >> looks pretty good, but I would rather find a way to leverage >> >> orgmode in a way that facilitates collaboration. What has >> worked >> >> for you? >> > >> > -- >> > Professor John Kitchin >> > Doherty Hall A207F >> > Department of Chemical Engineering >> > Carnegie Mellon University >> > Pittsburgh, PA 15213 >> > 412-268-7803 >> > @johnkitchin >> > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu -- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu