Re: Re: suggestions of Android smartphones

From: Daniel Martins <danielemc@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Jones <mat@matburt.net>
Cc: Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Re: suggestions of Android smartphones
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:22:19 -0300	[thread overview]
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2010/4/19 Matthew Jones <mat@matburt.net>:
> Maybe I misunderstood what you meant about the "swipe" feature.   There is a
> keyboard called Swype which is fairly overrated.

Sorry for the misspelling and confusion!

> I can't comment on how well or if a bluetooth keyboard would work... I think
> if I were going to go to the trouble of carrying around a keyboard I would
> rather just carry my netbook.

This is a good point. And carrying my netbook is exactly what I am
doing right now! However, for exceptional cases (eg a trip) it would
be interesting to have some comfort while writing a long text in the
hotel.

Anyway Matthew for Org-mode purposes your MobileOrg for Android (with
Agenda view) will be enough!

Daniel

> 73,
> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
> http://matburt.net
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Daniel Martins <danielemc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 2010/4/19 Matthew Jones <mat@matburt.net>:
>> > I used swype for about 2 days on my droid before getting rid of it...
>> > it's a
>> > good concept that needs be iterated on.
>>
>> I could not follow your comment here
>>
>>
>> > Trying to use emacs from any of the Android shells is borderline
>> > impossible... unless you have a full keyboard to hook up to your Android
>> > phone then I would say you should rule out using it in that fashion.
>>
>> A bluetooth keyboard such as
>>
>> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.34724
>> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6443
>> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.28954
>>
>>
>> is possible to be used with an Android phone? It worths an investment?
>>
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> > One of the features I'm working on for the MobileOrg beta (along with
>> > being
>> > able to capture notes and change todo states) is a home screen widget
>> > that
>> > will show your Agenda or Todo list, this way you don't have to open the
>> > application to view or adjust these items.
>> > 73
>> > Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
>> > http://matburt.net
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Daniel Martins <danielemc@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The device I was tantalized to buy was the
>> >>
>> >> Motorola Quench
>> >>
>> >> maybe mainly for Swipe feature
>> >>
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWpqsDnXIOY  (at about 1:00)
>> >>
>> >> or maybe for the price (in Brazil is about 500 USD while the Milestone
>> >> is about 780 USD. I know both are outrageous prices in American or
>> >> European terms!). BTW the Quench in Brazil DOES NOT seem to come with
>> >> the swype feature...
>> >>
>> >> In fact, I doubt I could edit in Emacs or similar in a phone. I am
>> >> afraid of virtual keyboards and small physical keyboards as well :)
>> >> For someone over forties I tend to do not consider these typing
>> >> devices as toys or at least funny :)
>> >>
>> >> For this reason I think that a nice interface such as MobileOrg with
>> >> agenda view would be the best.
>> >>
>> >> ConnectBot seems to be an option as well (when you have connection, of
>> >> course!)
>> >>
>> >> Sven, you seem quite happy with a virtual keyboard. Am I right?
>> >>
>> >> Daniel
>> >>
>> >> 2010/4/19 Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com>:
>> >> > Eric S Fraga <ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:07:32 -0300, Daniel Martins
>> >> >> <danielemc@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>  --- resending with a proper title ---
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Matthew,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Just a suggestion for newbies.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android similar to those of
>> >> >>> the MobileOrg Iphone.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the
>> >> >>> available
>> >> >>> keyborards are OK?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Daniel
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have the same questions!  My current mobile phone contract expires
>> >> >> in 3 months and I'm looking at upgrading to an Android phone.  The
>> >> >> current best deal I have found is for the Samsung Galaxy Portal, aka
>> >> >> the i5700.  [1] I'm looking at upgrading to replace my Nokia
>> >> >> internet
>> >> >> tablet (n810) and non-smart phone with one unit.  The nokia does a
>> >> >> really nice job of running emacs and org-mode, mind you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm particularly interested in knowing how the different handsets
>> >> >> approach the keying in of keys like C-x, M-x, TAB, et al.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> eric
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > +1 on this. I had almost decided on the Motorola Milestone (Droid)
>> >> > but
>> >> > would love to hear others experiences. Using org-mode in a term emacs
>> >> > is
>> >> > not ideal because a lot of shift/arrow/fn chords dont work in the
>> >> > terminals
>> >> > I tried (xterm, urxvt etc) and so doubt they will on a mobile device
>> >> > either : so my hard core usage of only emacs -nw inside urxvt and
>> >> > tmux
>> >> > soon dwindled and I'm back to using emacs in X. The only problem I
>> >> > now
>> >> > have is not being to find a way to use ONE x frame with emacsclient
>> >> > being able to create it if its not already done (I bet I've missed
>> >> > something obvious but emacsclient -c always creates a new frame and
>> >> > emacsclient wont create it if its not already there on my emacs).
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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