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* Marking a task done
@ 2007-10-09  3:22 Wanrong Lin
  2007-10-09  7:18 ` Christian Egli
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From: Wanrong Lin @ 2007-10-09  3:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi,

I have not followed very closely on the "dependency" thread that is hot 
now. But I guess my wish here probably relates to it. The feature I wish 
for is:

When a TODO item is marked "DONE", all TODO items under that tree are 
automatically marked as "DONE". More generically, the user should be 
able to customize what states (for me, that is "DONE", "CANCELED", 
"SUSPENDED", "DELEGATED") will affect the whole subtree like "DONE".

Someone in the "dependency" thread has raised similar features, but I 
wish this can be implemented before the big "dependency" plan is sorted 
out. :-)

Wanrong

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• * Re: Marking a task done
    2007-10-09  3:22 Marking a task done Wanrong Lin
  @ 2007-10-09  7:18 ` Christian Egli
    2007-10-09  9:16 ` Richard G Riley
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  From: Christian Egli @ 2007-10-09  7:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: emacs-orgmode
  
  Wanrong Lin <wanrong.lin <at> gmail.com> writes:
  
  > When a TODO item is marked "DONE", all TODO items under that tree are 
  > automatically marked as "DONE". More generically, the user should be 
  > able to customize what states (for me, that is "DONE", "CANCELED", 
  > "SUSPENDED", "DELEGATED") will affect the whole subtree like "DONE".
  
  The point of of hierarchical TODOs is that you can group a number of TODOs and
  only have one entry in the agenda. If you look at the classical example (which
  is even in the documentation AFAIK):
  
  * TODO Organize party
  ** TODO Invite people
  ** TODO Bake a cake
  
  In my agenda I see that I have a TODO to organize the party. If I look closer
  now (Tab on the agenda entry) I see that I also have to bake a cake. I can now
  tick of the subtasks individually and finally mark "Organize party" as DONE once
  all subtasks are done. I could also decide that I want to see all the subtasks
  in the agenda and hence remove the TODO from "Organize party". This will show
  all the subtasks in the agenda. This gives you a lot of flexibility and lets you
  group TODOs nicely.
  
  Your proposal pretty much ignores and destroys all of this. Can't you just
  select the whole subtree and mark all TODOs in the subtree as DONE? I thought
  5.10 introduced this feature.
  
  HTH
  Christian 
  
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• * Re: Marking a task done
    2007-10-09  3:22 Marking a task done Wanrong Lin
    2007-10-09  7:18 ` Christian Egli
  @ 2007-10-09  9:16 ` Richard G Riley
    2007-10-09 11:00   ` Bastien
    2007-10-09 10:58 ` Bastien
    2007-10-09 16:09 ` Carsten Dominik
    3 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
  From: Richard G Riley @ 2007-10-09  9:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: Wanrong Lin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
  
  Wanrong Lin <wanrong.lin@gmail.com> writes:
  
  > Hi,
  >
  > I have not followed very closely on the "dependency" thread that is
  > hot now. But I guess my wish here probably relates to it. The feature
  > I wish for is:
  >
  > When a TODO item is marked "DONE", all TODO items under that tree are
  > automatically marked as "DONE". More generically, the user should be
  > able to customize what states (for me, that is "DONE", "CANCELED",
  > "SUSPENDED", "DELEGATED") will affect the whole subtree like "DONE".
  
  Interesting. For me it probably be the opposite.
  
  e.g If I had a task called "Project 1" I would expect it to be
  automatically marked done when all sub tasks are marked as cancelled or
  done.
  
  In addition, a lot of people like marking each task with notes as they
  change state so I think the onus is on the org user to take
  responsibility to manually mark sub components - it is here (on the
  individual items of work) that a lot of work goes into things like which
  set of states a task can be, notes, scheduling times, clocks etc.
  
  >
  > Someone in the "dependency" thread has raised similar features, but I
  > wish this can be implemented before the big "dependency" plan is
  > sorted out. :-)
  >
  > Wanrong
  >
  >
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• • * Re: Marking a task done
      2007-10-09  9:16 ` Richard G Riley
    @ 2007-10-09 11:00   ` Bastien
           [not found]     ` <b71b18520710090730i20ebb1a7h7562072cd9890fca@mail.gmail.com>
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    From: Bastien @ 2007-10-09 11:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: emacs-orgmode
    
    Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@googlemail.com> writes:
    
    > e.g If I had a task called "Project 1" I would expect it to be
    > automatically marked done when all sub tasks are marked as cancelled
    > or done.
    
    Okay, then a :BLOCKER: on "Project 1" wouldn't let you mark it DONE
    until all sub-items are DONE.
    
    -- 
    Bastien
    
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    • • * Re: Marking a task done
               [not found]     ` <b71b18520710090730i20ebb1a7h7562072cd9890fca@mail.gmail.com>
        @ 2007-10-10 17:14       ` Bastien
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        From: Bastien @ 2007-10-10 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
          To: emacs-orgmode
        
        "Eddward DeVilla" <eddward@gmail.com> writes:
        
        > Would BLOCKER just prevent it from being marked done or would it do
        > the automatic marking he asked about?
        
        BLOCKERs would block an action for the current task unless/until other
        tasks change their todo states.
        
        > Would that be a combination of BLOCKER and TRIGGER?  I'm starting to
        > get it.  It seems a like it might be a little too verbose yet, but it
        > definitely seems like it could be very flexible.
        
        Yes.  The :DONE>: {...} was definitely too verbose, I was just exploring
        possibilities, trying to make them both human-readable and programmable.
        
        -- 
        Bastien
        
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• * Re: Marking a task done
    2007-10-09  3:22 Marking a task done Wanrong Lin
    2007-10-09  7:18 ` Christian Egli
    2007-10-09  9:16 ` Richard G Riley
  @ 2007-10-09 10:58 ` Bastien
    2007-10-09 16:09 ` Carsten Dominik
    3 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
  From: Bastien @ 2007-10-09 10:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: emacs-orgmode
  
  Wanrong Lin <wanrong.lin@gmail.com> writes:
  
  > When a TODO item is marked "DONE", all TODO items under that tree are
  > automatically marked as "DONE". More generically, the user should be
  > able to customize what states (for me, that is "DONE", "CANCELED",
  > "SUSPENDED", "DELEGATED") will affect the whole subtree like "DONE".
  
  Yes, this was the purpose of my suggestion 
    
    :DONE: {TODO 'subtree "DONE"}
  
  But this can be achieved with :TRIGGER: as well.
  
  -- 
  Bastien
  
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• * Re: Marking a task done
    2007-10-09  3:22 Marking a task done Wanrong Lin
                     ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
    2007-10-09 10:58 ` Bastien
  @ 2007-10-09 16:09 ` Carsten Dominik
    3 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
  From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-10-09 16:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: Wanrong Lin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
  
  I have to agree with the other posters that this seems to be the wrong
  idea.  First of all, the danger is reasonably large that you
  mark an entry DONE by accident, and then you will loose all state info 
  in the subtree.
  
  Even the other way round, marking a parent DONE when all children are
  is not something I would recommend.  Because that assumes that your
  planning is *complete* in the sense that the set of subtasks is
  complete.  I like to stand still for a moment when all these subtasks
  are DONE, to decide if this really finishes the parent and then marking
  it DONE.
  
  - Carsten
  
  On Oct 9, 2007, at 5:22, Wanrong Lin wrote:
  
  > Hi,
  >
  > I have not followed very closely on the "dependency" thread that is 
  > hot now. But I guess my wish here probably relates to it. The feature 
  > I wish for is:
  >
  > When a TODO item is marked "DONE", all TODO items under that tree are 
  > automatically marked as "DONE". More generically, the user should be 
  > able to customize what states (for me, that is "DONE", "CANCELED", 
  > "SUSPENDED", "DELEGATED") will affect the whole subtree like "DONE".
  >
  > Someone in the "dependency" thread has raised similar features, but I 
  > wish this can be implemented before the big "dependency" plan is 
  > sorted out. :-)
  >
  > Wanrong
  >
  >
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  >
  
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  Universiteit van Amsterdam
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