* [org-ref] how to tweak display of links and entries
@ 2017-01-11 4:42 Christian Wittern
2017-01-11 13:33 ` John Kitchin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Christian Wittern @ 2017-01-11 4:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Org Mode Mailing List
Hi Org, especially Org-ref users,
I have seen a number of org-ref related questions here recently, so I guess
it is OK to ask here.
I am trying to move to a more sophisticated bibliography format involving
some new field types recently added to biblatex. An author field for example
can look like
author = {family=Fang, given=Ailong, cjk=方愛龍},
where cjk is defined using biblatex's tools for this as a name addon.
Obviously, neither parsebib, helm-bibtex or org-ref understand this format
(yet). However, I do not understand where I have to intervene to display
this in a reasonable way, that is family name, given name and cjk name. Is
there a custom I have to redefine, or a hook I should add somewhere?
Another unrelated question is how to stop org-ref from displaying both the
key and the description of the link. I seem to remember having seen some
discussion here about this, but can't find it now.
Any help appreciated,
Christian
--
Christian Wittern, Kyoto
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread* Re: [org-ref] how to tweak display of links and entries 2017-01-11 4:42 [org-ref] how to tweak display of links and entries Christian Wittern @ 2017-01-11 13:33 ` John Kitchin 2017-01-11 23:03 ` Christian Wittern 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: John Kitchin @ 2017-01-11 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christian Wittern; +Cc: Org Mode Mailing List Christian Wittern writes: > Hi Org, especially Org-ref users, > > I have seen a number of org-ref related questions here recently, so I guess > it is OK to ask here. > > I am trying to move to a more sophisticated bibliography format involving > some new field types recently added to biblatex. An author field for example > can look like > > author = {family=Fang, given=Ailong, cjk=方愛龍}, > > where cjk is defined using biblatex's tools for this as a name addon. > Obviously, neither parsebib, helm-bibtex or org-ref understand this format > (yet). However, I do not understand where I have to intervene to display > this in a reasonable way, that is family name, given name and cjk name. Is > there a custom I have to redefine, or a hook I should add somewhere? There is not a way to hook or define a format for this that I know of. For helm-bibtex, you might be able to redefine or advise bibtex-completion-apa-format-authors to handle that. > > Another unrelated question is how to stop org-ref from displaying both the > key and the description of the link. I seem to remember having seen some > discussion here about this, but can't find it now. this is also not currently customizable. The description in cite links is used for pre/post text in the citations, and they are shown in full display so you can see the key and pre/post text. If you use the description for anything else, the latex export will probably not be what you expect. You can turn off the full display like this: #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp (loop for cite in org-ref-cite-types do (org-link-set-parameters cite :display nil)) #+END_SRC > > Any help appreciated, > > Christian -- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [org-ref] how to tweak display of links and entries 2017-01-11 13:33 ` John Kitchin @ 2017-01-11 23:03 ` Christian Wittern 2017-01-12 16:04 ` John Kitchin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Christian Wittern @ 2017-01-11 23:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: John Kitchin; +Cc: Org Mode Mailing List Dear John, Thanks for your answer. On 01/11/2017 10:33 PM, John Kitchin wrote: > > There is not a way to hook or define a format for this that I know of. > For helm-bibtex, you might be able to redefine or advise > bibtex-completion-apa-format-authors to handle that. Well, thanks, I'll investigate that. Is that what is also used for the display as popup and in the echo area that org-ref is providing? > > You can turn off the full display like this: > > #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp > (loop for cite in org-ref-cite-types > do > (org-link-set-parameters cite :display nil)) > #+END_SRC > OK, that is what I wanted to know, all I want to do is hide the citekey in this case. All the best, and thanks for given us the present of org-ref, Christian -- Christian Wittern, Kyoto ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [org-ref] how to tweak display of links and entries 2017-01-11 23:03 ` Christian Wittern @ 2017-01-12 16:04 ` John Kitchin 2017-01-12 23:57 ` Christian Wittern 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: John Kitchin @ 2017-01-12 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christian Wittern; +Cc: Org Mode Mailing List Christian Wittern writes: > Dear John, > > Thanks for your answer. > > On 01/11/2017 10:33 PM, John Kitchin wrote: >> >> There is not a way to hook or define a format for this that I know of. >> For helm-bibtex, you might be able to redefine or advise >> bibtex-completion-apa-format-authors to handle that. Here is a lightly tested way to modify the authors. It basically works by bypassing bibtex-completion-apa-format-authors to do what you want. I adapted it from the bibtex-completion-apa-format-authors code. #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp (defun format--cjk-authors (orig-fun &rest args) "Format authors my way." (cl-loop for a in (s-split " and " value t) collect (let ((fields (mapcar (lambda (x) (let* ((f (split-string x "=")) (prop (s-trim (nth 0 f))) (val (s-trim (nth 1 f)))) (cons prop val))) (s-split "," a t)))) (s-format "${given} ${family} (${cjk})" 'aget fields)) into authors finally return (let ((l (length authors))) (cond ((= l 1) (car authors)) ((= l 2) (s-join " & " authors)) ((< l 8) (concat (s-join ", " (-butlast authors)) ", & " (-last-item authors))) (t (concat (s-join ", " authors) ", ...")))))) (advice-add 'bibtex-completion-apa-format-authors :around #'format--cjk-authors) ; remove advice like this. ;(advice-remove 'bibtex-completion-apa-format-authors #'format--cjk-authors) #+END_SRC That generates Ailong Fang (方愛龍) & Another Fang (方愛龍), Super interesting report, J. Interesting Reports, 1(), (2007). for the tooltips and messages. for this entry @article{fang-2007-super, title = {Super interesting report}, author = {family=Fang, given=Ailong, cjk=方愛龍 and family=Fang, given=Another, cjk=方愛龍}, journal = {J. Interesting Reports}, keywords = {test, word}, volume = 1, year = 2007, } It is not very robust, e.g. it assumes there will be family, given and cjk for all authors, that authors are split by and, and prop=val is split by commas, etc... > > Well, thanks, I'll investigate that. Is that what is also used for the > display as popup and in the echo area that org-ref is providing? yes, I think so. > >> >> You can turn off the full display like this: >> >> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp >> (loop for cite in org-ref-cite-types >> do >> (org-link-set-parameters cite :display nil)) >> #+END_SRC >> > > OK, that is what I wanted to know, all I want to do is hide the citekey in > this case. > > All the best, and thanks for given us the present of org-ref, > > Christian -- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [org-ref] how to tweak display of links and entries 2017-01-12 16:04 ` John Kitchin @ 2017-01-12 23:57 ` Christian Wittern 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Christian Wittern @ 2017-01-12 23:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: John Kitchin; +Cc: Org Mode Mailing List Dear John, This is great. I will tweak this as needed. Thanks a lot, Christian On 01/13/2017 01:04 AM, John Kitchin wrote: > #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp > (defun format--cjk-authors (orig-fun &rest args) > "Format authors my way." > (cl-loop for a in (s-split " and " value t) > collect > (let ((fields (mapcar (lambda (x) > (let* ((f (split-string x "=")) > (prop (s-trim (nth 0 f))) > (val (s-trim (nth 1 f)))) > (cons prop val))) > (s-split "," a t)))) > (s-format "${given} ${family} (${cjk})" 'aget fields)) > into authors > finally return > (let ((l (length authors))) > (cond > ((= l 1) (car authors)) > ((= l 2) (s-join " & " authors)) > ((< l 8) (concat (s-join ", " (-butlast authors)) > ", & " (-last-item authors))) > (t (concat (s-join ", " authors) ", ...")))))) > > (advice-add 'bibtex-completion-apa-format-authors :around > #'format--cjk-authors) > > ; remove advice like this. > ;(advice-remove 'bibtex-completion-apa-format-authors #'format--cjk-authors) > > #+END_SRC > > That generates Ailong Fang (方愛龍) & Another Fang (方愛龍), Super > interesting report, J. Interesting Reports, 1(), (2007). for the > tooltips and messages. > > for this entry > > @article{fang-2007-super, > title = {Super interesting report}, > author = {family=Fang, given=Ailong, cjk=方愛龍 and family=Fang, given=Another, cjk=方愛龍}, > journal = {J. Interesting Reports}, > keywords = {test, word}, > volume = 1, > year = 2007, > } > > It is not very robust, e.g. it assumes there will be family, given and > cjk for all authors, that authors are split by and, and prop=val is > split by commas, etc... Yes, but its a great start. This proves that this is a viable road for this kind of material. There is still no established and robust way to do this kind of thing in any format, so I am great to see this is possible. All the best, Christian -- Christian Wittern, Kyoto ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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