* Exporting ODT to Org [was Re: General advice beyond Org]
2018-05-20 1:24 ` Samuel Wales
@ 2018-05-20 4:56 ` edgar
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From: edgar @ 2018-05-20 4:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On 2018-05-20 01:24, Samuel Wales wrote:
> perhaps we can start thinking about improving registration between
> formats?
I don't really know what this means.
> if you export org [you posted to org mailng list] to a foreign format,
> you want your collaborator to be able to edit, save, send back without
> raising a sweat.
Not really, although it would be nice--and possibly titanic to do.
> now you have to integrate the changes. you want to do this without
> annoyance.
>
> suppose you export comments in the foreign format that contain the
> equivalent of persistent markers. you might or might not be willing
> to put org id or custom id on every heading, but there might be
> workarounds that are not so intrusive. maybe your source can contain
> comments with markers. dunno.
Every great project had to start somewhere (this sounds like that).
However, if I am going to devote time to such a gigantic task, I would
rather spend it trying to convert others to free software rather than
doing favours to a closed format. I am not saying that it wouldn't be
nice to have it.
> if your exported document is a subtree within a huge org file that you
> edit all the time, registration allows your software to identify that
> subtree, so you're not trying to change anything outside that subtree.
> that alone is a win.
This sounds like a project for people in LibreOffice or Pandoc. I think
I will contact them to see if they are interested.
>
> but maybe we can do more. the markers can register sections or even
> paragraphs if you're doing intensive collaboration. the tricky part
> might be getting standard tools to understand that the mapping of
> markers takes precedence over everything else.
Yes, big project.
>
> details of this handwavey and possibly impossible brainstorm are left
> as an exercise for the reader.
LooooL! you remind me of books with notes such as "after deriving the
equation one arrives to the following expression" :P !
Thank you.
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* Exporting ODT to Org [was Re: General advice beyond Org]
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@ 2018-05-20 19:34 ` edgar
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From: edgar @ 2018-05-20 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Subject: Re: General advice beyond Org
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> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 06:24:49PM -0700, Samuel Wales wrote:
>> perhaps we can start thinking about improving registration between
>> formats?
>
> This resonates with some vague ideas that keep haunting some
> dark corners of my mind:
>
> it isn't generally possible to convert "Word" [1] into Org. But what
> if that "Word" is just a slight modification of something which has
> been transformed from an Org document we know?
>
> Of course, augmenting that with "pockets" where to stash
> meta-information
> which might get lost on round-trip would be even more interesting.
> Perhaps
> those pockets are external, tied to some (possibly change-resistant)
> hash
> made of enough context.
>
> Did I say dark corners?
>
> Cheers
Makes me feel lucky of being able to tie my laces! :D .
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