* Export formats: Is there an in-house Emacs final format?
@ 2014-02-25 18:08 Lawrence Bottorff
2014-02-25 18:15 ` Ken Mankoff
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From: Lawrence Bottorff @ 2014-02-25 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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I'm a beginner, and I'm trying to imagine how I'd use org mode to create a
sort of running conversation with myself. That is, I'd like to do a form of
journaling where I could make notes to myself, which would include the
usual text as outlne-hierarchy, hyperlinks too, but also babel code chunks,
as well as any sort of mathematical formulae I might want to include. It's
this last requirement that seems to be the hardest. As far as I can tell,
the readability of my raw org file would go out the window when I started
trying to put in math formulae. As I understand, you basically do raw Tex
markup for math stuff -- and you can only see the results when you export
to something external to Emacs like html for a browser or PDF for a PDF
viewer. Is this correct?
And for my title question, is there a native "in-house" i.e., the final
product is viewable in Emacs, export that would be rich enough (text,
images, and math symbols)? Besides the embedding of a PDF viewer in a
buffer trick, Emacs seems to have only Info. Does Info allow images and
fairly normal-looking math symbols? Or is "final product" always an
off-site, extra-Emacs business?
Lawrence Bottorff
North Shore MN
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* Re: Export formats: Is there an in-house Emacs final format?
2014-02-25 18:08 Export formats: Is there an in-house Emacs final format? Lawrence Bottorff
@ 2014-02-25 18:15 ` Ken Mankoff
2014-02-25 22:19 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
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From: Ken Mankoff @ 2014-02-25 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Org-mode; +Cc: Lawrence Bottorff
Hi Lawrence,
emacs (in a window, not in the terminal) allows display of images.
C-c C-x C-v will display your LaTeX equations as graphics in the
buffer. No need for other software.
You could also look at UTF-8 mode (C-c C-x \) to display \alpha and
x_y as their respective greek and subscript sympbols, for example.
And finally you could look into various pretty-symbol modes so your
text and even python code looks more analog. With pretty symbols
np.sum(sqrt(x)) looks like the greek sum and the sqrt symbols. A
cheap ASCII view would be: Ev(x)
-k.
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014, Lawrence Bottorff wrote:
> I'm a beginner, and I'm trying to imagine how I'd use org mode to
> create a sort of running conversation with myself. That is, I'd
> like to do a form of journaling where I could make notes to
> myself, which would include the usual text as outlne-hierarchy,
> hyperlinks too, but also babel code chunks, as well as any sort of
> mathematical formulae I might want to include. It's this last
> requirement that seems to be the hardest. As far as I can tell,
> the readability of my raw org file would go out the window when I
> started trying to put in math formulae. As I understand, you
> basically do raw Tex markup for math stuff -- and you can only see
> the results when you export to something external to Emacs like
> html for a browser or PDF for a PDF viewer. Is this correct?
>
> And for my title question, is there a native "in-house" i.e., the
> final product is viewable in Emacs, export that would be rich
> enough (text, images, and math symbols)? Besides the embedding of
> a PDF viewer in a buffer trick, Emacs seems to have only Info.
> Does Info allow images and fairly normal-looking math symbols? Or
> is "final product" always an off-site, extra-Emacs business?
>
> Lawrence Bottorff
> North Shore MN
>
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* Re: Export formats: Is there an in-house Emacs final format?
2014-02-25 18:15 ` Ken Mankoff
@ 2014-02-25 22:19 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2014-02-25 23:17 ` Ken Mankoff
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Darlan Cavalcante Moreira @ 2014-02-25 22:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ken Mankoff; +Cc: Org-mode, Lawrence Bottorff
As I understand, "C-c C-x C-v" (org-toggle-inline-images) will only show
images inline, not latex fragments (equations). For latex you want "C-c
C-x C-v" (org-preview-latex-fragment).
I have a folder with org files as my personal "knowledge archive" and I
use both org-toggle-inline-images and
org-preview-latex-fragment. Org-mode is indeed very nice for this
"conversation with myself" use case. Obviously you still get better
(prettier) results if you export the org file, but I rarely need to do
that.
--
Darlan
mankoff@gmail.com writes:
> Hi Lawrence,
>
> emacs (in a window, not in the terminal) allows display of images.
> C-c C-x C-v will display your LaTeX equations as graphics in the
> buffer. No need for other software.
>
> You could also look at UTF-8 mode (C-c C-x \) to display \alpha and
> x_y as their respective greek and subscript sympbols, for example.
>
> And finally you could look into various pretty-symbol modes so your
> text and even python code looks more analog. With pretty symbols
> np.sum(sqrt(x)) looks like the greek sum and the sqrt symbols. A
> cheap ASCII view would be: Ev(x)
>
> -k.
>
>
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2014, Lawrence Bottorff wrote:
>
>> I'm a beginner, and I'm trying to imagine how I'd use org mode to
>> create a sort of running conversation with myself. That is, I'd
>> like to do a form of journaling where I could make notes to
>> myself, which would include the usual text as outlne-hierarchy,
>> hyperlinks too, but also babel code chunks, as well as any sort of
>> mathematical formulae I might want to include. It's this last
>> requirement that seems to be the hardest. As far as I can tell,
>> the readability of my raw org file would go out the window when I
>> started trying to put in math formulae. As I understand, you
>> basically do raw Tex markup for math stuff -- and you can only see
>> the results when you export to something external to Emacs like
>> html for a browser or PDF for a PDF viewer. Is this correct?
>>
>> And for my title question, is there a native "in-house" i.e., the
>> final product is viewable in Emacs, export that would be rich
>> enough (text, images, and math symbols)? Besides the embedding of
>> a PDF viewer in a buffer trick, Emacs seems to have only Info.
>> Does Info allow images and fairly normal-looking math symbols? Or
>> is "final product" always an off-site, extra-Emacs business?
>>
>> Lawrence Bottorff
>> North Shore MN
>>
--
Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
darcamo@gmail.com
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