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* org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
@ 2021-03-13  7:24 Uwe Brauer
  2021-03-14 17:00 ` TRS-80
  2021-03-14 23:28 ` David Masterson
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2021-03-13  7:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode


Hi 

Currently I have the following setting for one org-capture-template:


("mu" "Stat+Num:Exercises English"
table-line (file+headline "~/Somefile.org" "Exercise Group-E")
"| %:fromname|%:fromaddress | %(my-extract-cc)|%^{Sheet|1|2|3|4|5|6}|%^{Exercise|1|} |  %a|%:date | "  :prepend t
)

That line is too long, I'd like something like this 
("mu" "Stat+Num:Exercises English"
table-line (file+headline "~/Somefile.org" "Exercise Group-E")
"| %:fromname|%:fromaddress\n %(my-extract-cc)|%^{Sheet|1|2|3|4|5|6}|%^{Exercise|1|} |  %a|%:date | "  :prepend t
)

Or 

("mu" "Stat+Num:Exercises English"
table-line (file+headline "~/Somefile.org" "Exercise Group-E")
"| %:fromname|%:fromaddress\n %(my-extract-cc)|%^{Sheet|1|2|3|4|5|6}|%^{Exercise|1|} |  %a|%:date | "  :prepend t
"|   | %(my-extract-cc) |   |   |   |   |   |   |    |  |   |   |    |        | "  :prepend t 
)


But nothing worked, any ideas?

Thanks and regards

Uwe Brauer 



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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-13  7:24 org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts Uwe Brauer
@ 2021-03-14 17:00 ` TRS-80
  2021-03-14 20:41   ` Uwe Brauer
  2021-03-14 22:12   ` Charles Millar
  2021-03-14 23:28 ` David Masterson
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: TRS-80 @ 2021-03-14 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

On 2021-03-13 02:24, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Currently I have the following setting for one org-capture-template:
> 
> 
> ("mu" "Stat+Num:Exercises English"
> table-line (file+headline "~/Somefile.org" "Exercise Group-E")
> "| %:fromname|%:fromaddress |
> %(my-extract-cc)|%^{Sheet|1|2|3|4|5|6}|%^{Exercise|1|} |  %a|%:date |
> "  :prepend t
> )
> 
> That line is too long, I'd like something like this
> ("mu" "Stat+Num:Exercises English"
> table-line (file+headline "~/Somefile.org" "Exercise Group-E")
> "| %:fromname|%:fromaddress\n
> %(my-extract-cc)|%^{Sheet|1|2|3|4|5|6}|%^{Exercise|1|} |  %a|%:date |
> "  :prepend t
> )
> 
> Or
> 
> ("mu" "Stat+Num:Exercises English"
> table-line (file+headline "~/Somefile.org" "Exercise Group-E")
> "| %:fromname|%:fromaddress\n
> %(my-extract-cc)|%^{Sheet|1|2|3|4|5|6}|%^{Exercise|1|} |  %a|%:date |
> "  :prepend t
> "|   | %(my-extract-cc) |   |   |   |   |   |   |    |  |   |   |    |
>        | "  :prepend t
> )
> 
> 
> But nothing worked, any ideas?
> 
> Thanks and regards
> 
> Uwe Brauer

Do you need to add more pipes to keep the table structure on the line
after the newline?

Cheers,
TRS-80


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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-14 17:00 ` TRS-80
@ 2021-03-14 20:41   ` Uwe Brauer
  2021-03-21 15:01     ` Maxim Nikulin
  2021-03-14 22:12   ` Charles Millar
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2021-03-14 20:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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> On 2021-03-13 02:24, Uwe Brauer wrote:

> Do you need to add more pipes to keep the table structure on the line
> after the newline?


I don't think so.

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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-14 17:00 ` TRS-80
  2021-03-14 20:41   ` Uwe Brauer
@ 2021-03-14 22:12   ` Charles Millar
  2021-03-15 14:13     ` Uwe Brauer
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Charles Millar @ 2021-03-14 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi,

On 3/14/21 1:00 PM, TRS-80 wrote:
> On 2021-03-13 02:24, Uwe Brauer wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Currently I have the following setting for one org-capture-template:
>>
>>
>> ("mu" "Stat+Num:Exercises English"
>> table-line (file+headline "~/Somefile.org" "Exercise Group-E")
>> "| %:fromname|%:fromaddress |
>> %(my-extract-cc)|%^{Sheet|1|2|3|4|5|6}|%^{Exercise|1|} |  %a|%:date |
>> "  :prepend t
>> )
>>
>> That line is too long, I'd like something like this
>> ("mu" "Stat+Num:Exercises English"
>> table-line (file+headline "~/Somefile.org" "Exercise Group-E")
>> "| %:fromname|%:fromaddress\n
>> %(my-extract-cc)|%^{Sheet|1|2|3|4|5|6}|%^{Exercise|1|} |  %a|%:date |
>> "  :prepend t
>> )
>>
>> Or
>>
>> ("mu" "Stat+Num:Exercises English"
>> table-line (file+headline "~/Somefile.org" "Exercise Group-E")
>> "| %:fromname|%:fromaddress\n
>> %(my-extract-cc)|%^{Sheet|1|2|3|4|5|6}|%^{Exercise|1|} |  %a|%:date |
>> "  :prepend t
>> "|   | %(my-extract-cc) |   |   |   |   |   |   |    |  |   |   |    |
>>        | "  :prepend t
>> )
>>
>>
>> But nothing worked, any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks and regards
>>
>> Uwe Brauer
> 
> Do you need to add more pipes to keep the table structure on the line
> after the newline?
> 
> Cheers,
> TRS-80
> 
You may have to escape the pipes. I did that in a similar capture template.

Charlie Millar


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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-13  7:24 org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts Uwe Brauer
  2021-03-14 17:00 ` TRS-80
@ 2021-03-14 23:28 ` David Masterson
  2021-03-15 14:14   ` Uwe Brauer
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: David Masterson @ 2021-03-14 23:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

> Currently I have the following setting for one org-capture-template:
>
>
> ("mu" "Stat+Num:Exercises English"
> table-line (file+headline "~/Somefile.org" "Exercise Group-E")
> "| %:fromname|%:fromaddress | %(my-extract-cc)|%^{Sheet|1|2|3|4|5|6}|%^{Exercise|1|} |  %a|%:date | "  :prepend t
> )
>
> That line is too long, I'd like something like this 
> ("mu" "Stat+Num:Exercises English"
> table-line (file+headline "~/Somefile.org" "Exercise Group-E")
> "| %:fromname|%:fromaddress\n %(my-extract-cc)|%^{Sheet|1|2|3|4|5|6}|%^{Exercise|1|} |  %a|%:date | "  :prepend t
> )
>
> Or 
>
> ("mu" "Stat+Num:Exercises English"
> table-line (file+headline "~/Somefile.org" "Exercise Group-E")
> "| %:fromname|%:fromaddress\n %(my-extract-cc)|%^{Sheet|1|2|3|4|5|6}|%^{Exercise|1|} |  %a|%:date | "  :prepend t
> "|   | %(my-extract-cc) |   |   |   |   |   |   |    |  |   |   |    |        | "  :prepend t 
> )
>
>
> But nothing worked, any ideas?

Break up the line however you wish into quoted substrings and concat
them together..?

-- 
David Masterson


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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-14 22:12   ` Charles Millar
@ 2021-03-15 14:13     ` Uwe Brauer
  2021-03-15 14:49       ` Charles Millar
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2021-03-15 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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> Hi,
> On 3/14/21 1:00 PM, TRS-80 wrote:
> You may have to escape the pipes. I did that in a similar capture template.

Can you give me an example, please?

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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-14 23:28 ` David Masterson
@ 2021-03-15 14:14   ` Uwe Brauer
  2021-03-19 18:12     ` TRS-80
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2021-03-15 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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   > Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

   > Break up the line however you wish into quoted substrings and concat
   > them together..?

No entirely sure that you mean by quoted substrings, can you give me an
example, please?

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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-15 14:13     ` Uwe Brauer
@ 2021-03-15 14:49       ` Charles Millar
  2021-03-15 21:00         ` Uwe Brauer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Charles Millar @ 2021-03-15 14:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

On 3/15/21 10:13 AM, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> On 3/14/21 1:00 PM, TRS-80 wrote:
>> You may have to escape the pipes. I did that in a similar capture template.
> 
> Can you give me an example, please?
> 

HTH

("s" "timeslip" table-line
(file "/mnt/Data/ActiveFiles/timeslips.org")
     	          "\| %(org-read-date)\| %^{FileName} %i\| %^{Narrative} 
%i\| %^{Time} %i\| %^{Expense} %i"


Charlie Millar


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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-15 14:49       ` Charles Millar
@ 2021-03-15 21:00         ` Uwe Brauer
  2021-03-16  0:04           ` Charles Millar
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2021-03-15 21:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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>>> "CM" == Charles Millar <millarc@verizon.net> writes:

   > On 3/15/21 10:13 AM, Uwe Brauer wrote:
   >> 
   >>> Hi,
   >>> On 3/14/21 1:00 PM, TRS-80 wrote:
   >>> You may have to escape the pipes. I did that in a similar capture template.
   >> Can you give me an example, please?
   >> 

   > HTH

   > ("s" "timeslip" table-line
   > (file "/mnt/Data/ActiveFiles/timeslips.org")
   >     	          "\| %(org-read-date)\| %^{FileName} %i\|
   >     	          %^{Narrative} %i\| %^{Time} %i\| %^{Expense} %i"

There is a ) missing, no?

I tried 

("s" "timeslip" table-line
(file "/home/oub/timeslips.org")
    	          "\| \| %fromname\|
    	          :%subject\| %a \| %:date")

But I obtain bad template when executing the code

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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-15 21:00         ` Uwe Brauer
@ 2021-03-16  0:04           ` Charles Millar
  2021-03-16  7:34             ` Uwe Brauer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Charles Millar @ 2021-03-16  0:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

On 3/15/21 5:00 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote:
>>>> "CM" == Charles Millar <millarc@verizon.net> writes:
> 
>     > On 3/15/21 10:13 AM, Uwe Brauer wrote:
>     >>
>     >>> Hi,
>     >>> On 3/14/21 1:00 PM, TRS-80 wrote:
>     >>> You may have to escape the pipes. I did that in a similar capture template.
>     >> Can you give me an example, please?
>     >>
> 
>     > HTH
> 
>     > ("s" "timeslip" table-line
>     > (file "/mnt/Data/ActiveFiles/timeslips.org")
>     >     	          "\| %(org-read-date)\| %^{FileName} %i\|
>     >     	          %^{Narrative} %i\| %^{Time} %i\| %^{Expense} %i"
> 
> There is a ) missing, no?
> 
> I tried
> 
> ("s" "timeslip" table-line
> (file "/home/oub/timeslips.org")
>      	          "\| \| %fromname\|
>      	          :%subject\| %a \| %:date")
> 
> But I obtain bad template when executing the code
> 
My bad; I did not pay attention to a four line comment, so here it is
again, with the comment and final line for the template, etc.

(setq org-capture-template '(

. . . some capture templates

                 ("s" "timeslip" table-line
      	     (file "/mnt/Data/ActiveFiles/timeslips.org")
        ;;    	    (file "d:/ActiveFiles/timeslips.org")
     	          "\| %(org-read-date)\| %^{FileName} %i\| %^{Narrative} 
%i\| %^{Time} %i\| %^{Expense} %i"

;; Note that there is no escape and pipe after the final content input 
expansion
;; if there were a \| then an empty column is added
;; (org-read-date) added 2013-07-12; see Sacha Chua's use of same as in
;; the ledger templates below.
                  :empty-lines 1)

, , , some more capture templates

))


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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-16  0:04           ` Charles Millar
@ 2021-03-16  7:34             ` Uwe Brauer
  2021-03-16 11:17               ` Charles Millar
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2021-03-16  7:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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   > On 3/15/21 5:00 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote:
   > My bad; I did not pay attention to a four line comment, so here it is
   > again, with the comment and final line for the template, etc.

   > (setq org-capture-template '(

   > . . . some capture templates

   >                 ("s" "timeslip" table-line
   >      	     (file "/mnt/Data/ActiveFiles/timeslips.org")
   >        ;;    	    (file "d:/ActiveFiles/timeslips.org")
   >     	          "\| %(org-read-date)\| %^{FileName} %i\|
   >     	          %^{Narrative} %i\| %^{Time} %i\| %^{Expense} %i"

   > ;; Note that there is no escape and pipe after the final content input
   >    expansion
   > ;; if there were a \| then an empty column is added
   > ;; (org-read-date) added 2013-07-12; see Sacha Chua's use of same as in
   > ;; the ledger templates below.
   >                  :empty-lines 1)

   > , , , some more capture templates

   > ))


I still obtain 

| Bad template 


Even copying your code without any modifications! I am running org
9.3.7

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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-16  7:34             ` Uwe Brauer
@ 2021-03-16 11:17               ` Charles Millar
  2021-03-18  7:38                 ` Uwe Brauer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Charles Millar @ 2021-03-16 11:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

On 3/16/21 3:34 AM, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> 
>     > On 3/15/21 5:00 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote:
>     > My bad; I did not pay attention to a four line comment, so here it is
>     > again, with the comment and final line for the template, etc.
> 
>     > (setq org-capture-template '(
> 
>     > . . . some capture templates
> 
>     >                 ("s" "timeslip" table-line
>     >      	     (file "/mnt/Data/ActiveFiles/timeslips.org")
>     >        ;;    	    (file "d:/ActiveFiles/timeslips.org")
>     >     	          "\| %(org-read-date)\| %^{FileName} %i\|
>     >     	          %^{Narrative} %i\| %^{Time} %i\| %^{Expense} %i"
> 
>     > ;; Note that there is no escape and pipe after the final content input
>     >    expansion
>     > ;; if there were a \| then an empty column is added
>     > ;; (org-read-date) added 2013-07-12; see Sacha Chua's use of same as in
>     > ;; the ledger templates below.
>     >                  :empty-lines 1)
> 
>     > , , , some more capture templates
> 
>     > ))
> 
> 
> I still obtain
> 
> | Bad template
> 
> 
> Even copying your code without any modifications! I am running org
> 9.3.7
> 
I'm running org 9.4.4 and emacs 28.0.50, (both from source) on Debian 
testing. According to my notes in my init file I created the template in 
early July 2011, modified it slightly two years later. I do not recall 
any problems with it.

Just to  make sure that there is no problem with the timeslips template, 
at least on my system, I commented out all of the capture templates 
before and after the timeslips template and reloaded my init file. I ran 
org-capture (bound to C-cm). The timeslips came up in the dispatcher and 
it ran OK.

I notice that I was off by a key and typed periods and not semicolons in 
the two lines "some capture templates," and, "some more capture templates."

Charlie Millar


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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-16 11:17               ` Charles Millar
@ 2021-03-18  7:38                 ` Uwe Brauer
  2021-03-19 18:15                   ` TRS-80
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Brauer @ 2021-03-18  7:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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   > On 3/16/21 3:34 AM, Uwe Brauer wrote:
   > I'm running org 9.4.4 and emacs 28.0.50, (both from source) on Debian
   > testing. According to my notes in my init file I created the template
   > in early July 2011, modified it slightly two years later. I do not
   > recall any problems with it.

   > Just to  make sure that there is no problem with the timeslips
   > template, at least on my system, I commented out all of the capture
   > templates before and after the timeslips template and reloaded my init
   > file. I ran org-capture (bound to C-cm). The timeslips came up in the
   > dispatcher and it ran OK.

   > I notice that I was off by a key and typed periods and not semicolons
   > in the two lines "some capture templates," and, "some more capture
   > templates."




I commented out all my templates

So the only entry is 

                ("s" "timeslip" table-line
     	     (file "/home/oub/timeslips.org")
       ;;    	    (file "d:/ActiveFiles/timeslips.org")
    	          "\| %(org-read-date)\| %^{FileName} %i\|
    	          %^{Narrative} %i\| %^{Time} %i\| %^{Expense} %i"

Timeslips.org is empty.

I mark a line in my org-init file and fire up org-capture using your
template, I insert as file name org-init, 
narrative I insert blabla 
time I insert 10:00
Expense I insert 10

And I obtain 

| Bad template 

What do I miss here?

Thanks 

Uwe 

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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-15 14:14   ` Uwe Brauer
@ 2021-03-19 18:12     ` TRS-80
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: TRS-80 @ 2021-03-19 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

On 2021-03-15 10:14, Uwe Brauer wrote:
>> Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:
> 
>> Break up the line however you wish into quoted substrings and
>> concat them together..?
> 
> No entirely sure that you mean by quoted substrings, can you give me
> an example, please?

I am not same guy you were replying to, but:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
   (concat "Add "
	  "all "
	  "these "
	  "strings "
	  "together!")
   ;; result:
   "Add all these strings together!"
#+end_src

I use it a lot when:

- things start to get complicated (some regexp)
- I want to maintain lines in source that will match output
- in some other cases, too.

Really helpful!

Cheers,
TRS-80


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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-18  7:38                 ` Uwe Brauer
@ 2021-03-19 18:15                   ` TRS-80
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: TRS-80 @ 2021-03-19 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

On 2021-03-18 03:38, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> I commented out all my templates
> 
> So the only entry is
> 
>                 ("s" "timeslip" table-line
>      	     (file "/home/oub/timeslips.org")
>        ;;    	    (file "d:/ActiveFiles/timeslips.org")
>     	          "\| %(org-read-date)\| %^{FileName} %i\|
>     	          %^{Narrative} %i\| %^{Time} %i\| %^{Expense} %i"
> 
> Timeslips.org is empty.
> 
> I mark a line in my org-init file and fire up org-capture using your
> template, I insert as file name org-init,
> narrative I insert blabla
> time I insert 10:00
> Expense I insert 10
> 
> And I obtain
> 
> | Bad template
> 
> What do I miss here?

Maybe try a minimal Emacs, just to make sure something else isn't
affecting it?

Cheers,
TRS-80


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* Re: org-capture-template: table lines including newline of sorts
  2021-03-14 20:41   ` Uwe Brauer
@ 2021-03-21 15:01     ` Maxim Nikulin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Maxim Nikulin @ 2021-03-21 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

On 15/03/2021 03:41, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> 
>> On 2021-03-13 02:24, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> 
>> Do you need to add more pipes to keep the table structure on the line
>> after the newline?
> 
> 
> I don't think so.

I am afraid, then you should significantly modify implementation for 
table-line capture type.

Your examples are hardly could be considered as minimal that anyone 
could easily try. I admit that you need namely the template for exams 
that could be quickly filled from email, but still...

      ("w" "Table - works" table-line
       (file+headline "" "Table")
       "| %U | It |\n| | Works |" :prepend t)
      ("b" "Table - broken" table-line
       (file+headline "" "Table")
       "| %U | Broken\nmultiline |" :prepend t)



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