* Reanalyzing archived TO-DOs
@ 2016-08-08 2:32 Avery Chan
2016-08-08 20:40 ` OReanalyzing " Matt Lundin
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From: Avery Chan @ 2016-08-08 2:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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Hey all,
First I want to apologize for emailing this group. I tried searching the mail archives, but:
• Gmane is down.
• The lists.gnu.org <http://lists.gnu.org/> search is broken; using the keyword ‘archive’ as the search string leads to 0 references.
I also did the prerequisite Google and search on Stackoverflow and Reddit.
I use org-mode as a TO-DO list: I setup a list of things to do, assign time estimates to them, schedule them, and clock-in/clock-out. One of my goals is to see how much time is actually spent on my to-dos versus the amount of time I allocate to them.
One problem is what to do with completed tasks. They clutter up my todo list so I usually archive them to another file. My problem is that after archiving them, I can't compare the 'effort' with the actual 'clock time' easily (i.e. using `C-c C-x C-c (org-agenda-columns)` doesn't return the same results in my original org file as it does in the archived file.)
**What's a workflow that will allow me to open up my archived TO-DOs to evaluate them?**
Thank you!
Avery
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* Re: OReanalyzing archived TO-DOs
2016-08-08 2:32 Reanalyzing archived TO-DOs Avery Chan
@ 2016-08-08 20:40 ` Matt Lundin
2016-08-09 3:10 ` Avery Chan
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From: Matt Lundin @ 2016-08-08 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Avery Chan; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Avery,
Avery Chan <avery@avericity.com> writes:
> One problem is what to do with completed tasks. They clutter up my
> todo list so I usually archive them to another file. My problem is
> that after archiving them, I can't compare the 'effort' with the
> actual 'clock time' easily (i.e. using `C-c C-x C-c
> (org-agenda-columns)` doesn't return the same results in my original
> org file as it does in the archived file.)
I can't replicate this. Could you provide an minimal example that
demonstrates the problem?
> **What's a workflow that will allow me to open up my archived TO-DOs
> to evaluate them?**
I would probably do the same thing you did: i.e., use column view in the
archive file. You could also try including archive files in the agenda
("v A") and then using column view in the agenda. That would have the
effect of merging archived and non-archived tasks into a single view.
Best,
Matt
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* Re: OReanalyzing archived TO-DOs
2016-08-08 20:40 ` OReanalyzing " Matt Lundin
@ 2016-08-09 3:10 ` Avery Chan
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From: Avery Chan @ 2016-08-09 3:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matt Lundin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
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Hi Matt,
Thanks for your reply. In trying to build the MinEx I found the solution to my problem:
1) In my archive file, I did not have the correct column-definition layout that I had in my original TODO.org <http://todo.org/> file:
`#+COLUMNS: %40ITEM(Task) %17Effort(Estimated Effort){:} %CLOCKSUM`
2) In my archive file, if I had archived the item in my original file (i.e. tagged it as archived) and then sent the sub-tree to the actual archive, it would be marked as ‘ARCHIVED’ in the archive file. To achieve what I described below, the proper action would be to just archive it directly into the archive file instead of tagging it. Org-mode ignores any items that are tagged as ‘ARCHIVED’ when you try use column-view.
I do have a follow-up questions. I noticed that sometimes Org-mode wouldn’t pick up my column definition. Is there a way to tell org-mode to reload the file with the column-defintion layout? To get it to work, I saved the org file, quit emacs and then ran emacs again with the org file; then org-mode picked up my column-definition layout. This is very easy to replicate. I’ve included an org-mode file here. Just run column view and quit column view. Then delete the column-definition layout line at the top and re-run column view. (see below).
Avery
———
# -*- mode: org -*-
#+PROPERTY: Effort_ALL 0 0:10 0:30 1:00 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00 6:00 7:00
#+COLUMNS: %40ITEM(Task) %17Effort(Estimated Effort){:} %CLOCKSUM
Archived entries from file /Users/avery/test-archive.org
* Feed dinosaur
:PROPERTIES:
:Effort: 0:30
:ARCHIVE_TIME: 2016-08-09 Tue 10:50
:ARCHIVE_FILE: ~/test-archive.org
:ARCHIVE_OLPATH: List
:ARCHIVE_CATEGORY: test-archive
:END:
<2016-08-09 Tue 8:00-08:30>
* DONE Polish steel rocket pack
CLOSED: [2016-08-09 Tue 11:02]
:PROPERTIES:
:Effort: 1:00
:ARCHIVE_TIME: 2016-08-09 Tue 11:03
:ARCHIVE_FILE: ~/test-archive.org
:ARCHIVE_OLPATH: List
:ARCHIVE_CATEGORY: test-archive
:ARCHIVE_TODO: DONE
:END:
:LOGBOOK:
CLOCK: [2016-08-09 Tue 11:02]--[2016-08-10 Wed 11:02] => 24:00
:END:
<2016-08-09 Tue 23:00-00:00>
> On Aug 9, 2016, at 4:40 AM, Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Avery,
>
> Avery Chan <avery@avericity.com> writes:
>
>> One problem is what to do with completed tasks. They clutter up my
>> todo list so I usually archive them to another file. My problem is
>> that after archiving them, I can't compare the 'effort' with the
>> actual 'clock time' easily (i.e. using `C-c C-x C-c
>> (org-agenda-columns)` doesn't return the same results in my original
>> org file as it does in the archived file.)
>
> I can't replicate this. Could you provide an minimal example that
> demonstrates the problem?
>
>> **What's a workflow that will allow me to open up my archived TO-DOs
>> to evaluate them?**
>
> I would probably do the same thing you did: i.e., use column view in the
> archive file. You could also try including archive files in the agenda
> ("v A") and then using column view in the agenda. That would have the
> effect of merging archived and non-archived tasks into a single view.
>
> Best,
> Matt
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