From: 42 147 <aeuster@gmail.com>
To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com
Cc: Org Mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: org-meta-return
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:16:34 -0500 [thread overview]
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> Have you tried a Dvorak keyboard?
A friend of mine ridicules me for being a QWERTY typist, but I have found
no empirical evidence that it is actually superior. At best, it has been
proven, in /some/ studies, to be /slightly/ superior; and from a
cost-benefit standpoint, /slight/ superiority according to /some/ studies
(and I should add, only at extreme speeds), is not worth relearning how to
type.
I should add, he, too, changed the default Emacs keybindings to be
positional. But he ended up changing /different/ defaults.
2013/2/20 Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com>
> [Warning: off-topic]
>
> 42 147 <aeuster@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > My hands might be smaller than average, or, at least, smaller than yours.
> > To reach <right> I must shift my entire arm to the right and
> > downward. To reach <RET> no such movement is necessary. Maybe a slight
> > turn of the wrist to the right.
> >
>
> I doubt my hands are bigger than yours: I have to do exactly what you
> describe (at least on the bigger keyboards). It's just not as big a deal
> for me as it is for you.
>
> > > Of course, these things are *highly* personal preferences, and you
> might
> > > have a lower tolerance for pain than I have, but I have to ask: where
> > > exactly is your <right> key relative to <RET>?
> >
> > Warning, digression:
> >
> > I'm ultra cautious about finger / wrist strain. Even if I feel slight
> > discomfort from a keybinding, I will change it to be more ergonomic and
> > strain-free. Practically every basic Emacs movement command has been
> > rebound for optimum comfort as a QWERTY typist.
> >
> > Many of the default Emacs keybindings are notational, not positional. For
> > example, C-p and C-n. I've made them all positional. C-p / C-] are now
> > paired together for previous-line / next-line. C-q / C-e for
> > beginning-of-line / end-of-line. From a positional standpoint, C-p / C-n
> > makes absolutely no sense.
> >
>
> Agreed - they are only mnemonically significant. And I think you are
> right in taking precautions. As I said, I'm a sufficiently bad typist
> so that all these sins have not bitten me (at least not yet - and they
> are rapidly running out of time).
>
> Have you tried a Dvorak keyboard? My son uses a QWERTY keyboard, mapped
> in software to Dvorak - he learnt to touch type on one by switching
> all the keycaps, although he didn't need the crutch
> after a while, so his second keyboard has all the keycaps in the
> standard places - they just produce different characters than what the
> keycaps say. This had two advantages for him: the Dvorak placement
> which reduces strain (supposedly at least), and the fact that I
> couldn't say to him "Move over and let me drive for a while". I tried
> a couple of times and I can still hear his laughter... I suspect
> that unless one is an experienced Dvorak typist, it is a better security
> device than many passwords :-)
>
> I'm not sure a Dvorak keyboard would help with emacs chords though.
> Another possibility is one of the funky Kinesis keyboards: a colleague
> would wax ecstatic about his, but he was not an emacs user. And they
> are too expensive to buy one just to try it out.
>
> I'd be interested if somebody has tried either a Dvorak keyboard or
> a Kinesis one with emacs - but this is way off-topic by now, so maybe
> not.
>
> Nick
>
>
>
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-20 19:32 org-meta-return 42 147
2013-02-20 19:40 ` org-meta-return Suvayu Ali
2013-02-20 21:17 ` org-meta-return 42 147
2013-02-20 21:57 ` org-meta-return Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2013-02-20 22:33 ` org-meta-return Suvayu Ali
2013-02-20 22:59 ` org-meta-return Nick Dokos
2013-02-20 23:25 ` org-meta-return W. Greenhouse
2013-02-20 23:28 ` org-meta-return 42 147
2013-02-21 0:11 ` org-meta-return Nick Dokos
2013-02-21 0:43 ` org-meta-return Suvayu Ali
2013-02-21 1:10 ` org-meta-return Nick Dokos
2013-02-26 9:03 ` org-meta-return Eric S Fraga
2013-02-26 11:10 ` org-meta-return Sebastien Vauban
2013-02-26 13:16 ` org-meta-return Suvayu Ali
2013-02-26 15:54 ` org-meta-return Eric S Fraga
2013-02-21 21:16 ` 42 147 [this message]
2013-02-23 3:30 ` org-meta-return James Harkins
2013-03-02 20:43 ` org-meta-return Michael Brand
2013-03-02 23:59 ` org-meta-return 42 147
2013-03-03 10:08 ` org-meta-return Michael Brand
2013-03-03 10:44 ` org-meta-return Eric Abrahamsen
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2016-10-31 0:16 org-meta-return 42 147
2016-10-31 11:10 ` org-meta-return Nicolas Goaziou
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