* force italic mode?
@ 2016-11-17 12:45 hymie!
2016-11-17 16:39 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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From: hymie! @ 2016-11-17 12:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Greetings.
(My first question is, can I post from gmane?)
I know how to make text italic by /surrounding/ it with /slashes/.
I know that there's a variable (org-emphasis-regex-components) that
specifies what characters are allowed before or after the markup
characters.
But let's say I don't want to mess with my document defaults. I just
want to specify, in this one particular place, that I have the word
fuzzywuzzywuzzabear
and I want "wuzzy" to be italic. Is there a way I can do that?
--hymie!
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* Re: force italic mode?
2016-11-17 12:45 force italic mode? hymie!
@ 2016-11-17 16:39 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-11-17 16:46 ` John Kitchin
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2016-11-17 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
hymie! <hymie@lactose.homelinux.net> writes:
> Greetings.
>
> (My first question is, can I post from gmane?)
>
> I know how to make text italic by /surrounding/ it with /slashes/.
>
> I know that there's a variable (org-emphasis-regex-components) that
> specifies what characters are allowed before or after the markup
> characters.
>
> But let's say I don't want to mess with my document defaults. I just
> want to specify, in this one particular place, that I have the word
>
> fuzzywuzzywuzzabear
>
> and I want "wuzzy" to be italic. Is there a way I can do that?
You haven't actually said why you can't just write
/fuzzywuzzywuzzabear/, but presumably there's some reason that won't
work. You might consider literal export snippets, though then you'd need
to target each different backend you're exporting to. So you could do:
@@html:<emph>@@fuzzywuzzywuzzabear@@html:</emph>@@
For instance. Is that what you meant?
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* Re: force italic mode?
2016-11-17 16:39 ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2016-11-17 16:46 ` John Kitchin
2016-11-17 17:03 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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From: John Kitchin @ 2016-11-17 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
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No what Hymie wants is part of the middle of that word italicizes I think.
On Thursday, November 17, 2016, Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
wrote:
> hymie! <hymie@lactose.homelinux.net <javascript:;>> writes:
>
> > Greetings.
> >
> > (My first question is, can I post from gmane?)
> >
> > I know how to make text italic by /surrounding/ it with /slashes/.
> >
> > I know that there's a variable (org-emphasis-regex-components) that
> > specifies what characters are allowed before or after the markup
> > characters.
> >
> > But let's say I don't want to mess with my document defaults. I just
> > want to specify, in this one particular place, that I have the word
> >
> > fuzzywuzzywuzzabear
> >
> > and I want "wuzzy" to be italic. Is there a way I can do that?
>
> You haven't actually said why you can't just write
> /fuzzywuzzywuzzabear/, but presumably there's some reason that won't
> work. You might consider literal export snippets, though then you'd need
> to target each different backend you're exporting to. So you could do:
>
> @@html:<emph>@@fuzzywuzzywuzzabear@@html:</emph>@@
>
> For instance. Is that what you meant?
>
>
>
--
John
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* Re: force italic mode?
2016-11-17 16:46 ` John Kitchin
@ 2016-11-17 17:03 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-11-18 14:59 ` Aaron Ecay
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From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2016-11-17 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> No what Hymie wants is part of the middle of that word italicizes I
> think.
Oh, sorry! Don't know how I missed that. Well, still, same solution:
fuzzy@@html:<emph>@@wuzzy@@html:</emph>@@wuzzabear
So far as I know there's no way to do that *outside* of an
export-specific snippet, but I would love to be proved wrong.
E
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* Re: force italic mode?
2016-11-17 17:03 ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2016-11-18 14:59 ` Aaron Ecay
2016-11-18 17:44 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-11-18 18:31 ` hymie!
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From: Aaron Ecay @ 2016-11-18 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Abrahamsen, emacs-orgmode
Hi Eric, hi all,
2016ko azaroak 17an, Eric Abrahamsen-ek idatzi zuen:
>
> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>> No what Hymie wants is part of the middle of that word italicizes I
>> think.
>
> Oh, sorry! Don't know how I missed that. Well, still, same solution:
>
> fuzzy@@html:<emph>@@wuzzy@@html:</emph>@@wuzzabear
>
> So far as I know there's no way to do that *outside* of an
> export-specific snippet, but I would love to be proved wrong.
You can accomplish this by using an entity that expands to nothing. The
closest entry in org-entities is \zwj (zero width word-joining space):
foo\zwj{}/bar/\zwj{}baz
I have an entry like the following defined in org-entities-user for this
purpose:
("nothing" "" nil "" "" "" "")
It might be worth considering adding to org-entities, but I’ve never
proposed it as it looks like an ugly hack to me.
--
Aaron Ecay
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* Re: force italic mode?
2016-11-18 14:59 ` Aaron Ecay
@ 2016-11-18 17:44 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-11-18 18:31 ` hymie!
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2016-11-18 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Aaron Ecay <aaronecay@gmail.com> writes:
> Hi Eric, hi all,
>
> 2016ko azaroak 17an, Eric Abrahamsen-ek idatzi zuen:
>>
>> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>
>>> No what Hymie wants is part of the middle of that word italicizes I
>>> think.
>>
>> Oh, sorry! Don't know how I missed that. Well, still, same solution:
>>
>> fuzzy@@html:<emph>@@wuzzy@@html:</emph>@@wuzzabear
>>
>> So far as I know there's no way to do that *outside* of an
>> export-specific snippet, but I would love to be proved wrong.
>
> You can accomplish this by using an entity that expands to nothing. The
> closest entry in org-entities is \zwj (zero width word-joining space):
>
> foo\zwj{}/bar/\zwj{}baz
>
> I have an entry like the following defined in org-entities-user for this
> purpose:
>
> ("nothing" "" nil "" "" "" "")
>
> It might be worth considering adding to org-entities, but I’ve never
> proposed it as it looks like an ugly hack to me.
Huh... but with the \zwj{} trick the /bar/ still isn't recognized as
italic -- I think that was the OP's main hope.
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* Re: force italic mode?
2016-11-18 14:59 ` Aaron Ecay
2016-11-18 17:44 ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2016-11-18 18:31 ` hymie!
2016-11-19 0:39 ` William Henney
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From: hymie! @ 2016-11-18 18:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
In our last episode, the evil Dr. Lacto had captured our hero,
Aaron Ecay <aaronecay@gmail.com>, who said:
> You can accomplish this by using an entity that expands to nothing. The
> closest entry in org-entities is \zwj (zero width word-joining space):
>
> foo\zwj{}/bar/\zwj{}baz
This doesn't work for me. :(
It works to the left of the zwj, such as
=foo=\zwj{}bar
...but not to the right as you did above.
It's hard to read the value I have for org-emphasis-regexp-components
but it looks like } is in there, so I guess it should be working?
--hymie! http://lactose.homelinux.net/~hymie hymie@lactose.homelinux.net
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* Re: force italic mode?
2016-11-18 18:31 ` hymie!
@ 2016-11-19 0:39 ` William Henney
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From: William Henney @ 2016-11-19 0:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: hymie!; +Cc: emacs-org
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On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 12:31 PM, hymie! <hymie@lactose.homelinux.net>
wrote:
> In our last episode, the evil Dr. Lacto had captured our hero,
> Aaron Ecay <aaronecay@gmail.com>, who said:
> > You can accomplish this by using an entity that expands to nothing. The
> > closest entry in org-entities is \zwj (zero width word-joining space):
> >
> > foo\zwj{}/bar/\zwj{}baz
>
> This doesn't work for me. :(
>
> It works to the left of the zwj, such as
> =foo=\zwj{}bar
>
> ...but not to the right as you did above.
>
> It's hard to read the value I have for org-emphasis-regexp-components
> but it looks like } is in there, so I guess it should be working?
>
>
No, it is only in the POSTMATCH part. If you add it to the PREMATCH part
too, then your example would work. But I think it would be neater to put a
pair of literal "zero width space" characters in your file. I managed to
get this to work by doing:
(setq org-emphasis-regexp-components '("[:space:][:cntrl:]('\"{}"
"[:space:][:cntrl:]-.,:!?;'\")}\\[" "[:space:][:cntrl:]" "." 1))
This means you can write "fuzzy/wuzzy/wuzzabear" where there is a 0x200B
character (ZERO WIDTH SPACE) either side of /wuzzy/ (hopefully this will
survive in the email). I inserted the characters with "C-x 8 RET ...".
In case you prefer to have something more visible in the source file, I
also made it so you can use any ascii control character to bracket the
delimiters. For instance, the NULL character: "fuzzy^@/wuzzy/^@bear".
Note that those are not real NULLs, but are how they appear in the emacs
buffer. You can insert them with "C-q 0 RET".
Will
> --hymie! http://lactose.homelinux.net/~hymie
> hymie@lactose.homelinux.net
>
>
>
--
Dr William Henney, Instituto de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
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