emacs-orgmode@gnu.org archives
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
To: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>,
	Richard Lawrence <wyley.r@gmail.com>,
	emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: newline or no newline at end of capture: expected behavior
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 14:08:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJcAo8v+Qewmu5xVLRTLd+onFBVJoCvu4fJujMczwhK8X7CZng@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJcAo8sR4Qk+Hb7cYqx_6ek-KRcrfPNBdqqX-7+4V2-jH_yS1g@mail.gmail.com>

... but i want to know what is expected.  it sopunds like org is
intended to produce the desired result regardless.  so i will messa
aroud more with my settings.

i am limited in comput3er use so it might take a while for me to
produce anything liek an mwe.  but i will check a few things.

On 9/27/20, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi nicolas,
>
> thanks, that helps to know that org adds a newline.  this prevents the
> failure mode of corrupted headers.
>
> just to confirm, do you mean capture /templates/ [potentially
> verifiable by org] vs. /finalized buffers/?
>
> it sounds like you mean templates, because otherwise org just does
> whatever is necessary to create desired lines?
>
> the user can mess with the buffer, so might leave a trailing newline
> or not.  might copy from a file that ensures trailing newline, or one
> that does not, etc.
>
> thus finalized buffers can contain anything.  or nothing.
>
> at present, possibly due to my own errors, without the options
> specified explicitly, i get blank lines below the header if i finalize
> the buffer with a trailing newline, and blank lines below the target
> header if i capture with an empty buffer.  in maint.
>
>
> On 9/27/20, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> thank you.  when i can, i will try explicitly setting all three to 0
>>> to see if that prevents the unwanted newlines, in the buffer with
>>> newline on last line, and empty buffer, cases.
>>>
>>> the docstring says empty-lines defaults to 0, which is what i want.
>>> it does not say what the default for after and before are.
>>>
>>> it /sounds/ like capture is supposed to produce the desired number
>>> [and position] of empty lines regardless of whether the buffer is
>>> empty or there is or is not a trailing newline on the final line of
>>> hte buffer.  is this more or less correct?
>>
>> I didn't read the whole thread, but a final newline is mandatory in all
>> capture templates, independently on the number of desired blank lines.
>> If such final newline is not provided, the capture mechanism will add
>> one.
>>
>> The only exception is about empty capture templates, which are left
>> as-is, i.e. a "final newline" is not added in that case.
>>
>> I don't know if that answers your question, but HTH.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Nicolas Goaziou
>>
>
>
> --
> The Kafka Pandemic
>
> Please learn what misopathy is.
> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html
>


-- 
The Kafka Pandemic

Please learn what misopathy is.
https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html


  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-27 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-20  5:29 Samuel Wales
2020-09-20  5:36 ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-23  7:24   ` Bastien
2020-09-23 21:29     ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-23 21:30   ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-27  4:13     ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-27  7:16       ` Richard Lawrence
2020-09-27  7:42         ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-27 10:39           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-09-27 21:07             ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-27 21:08               ` Samuel Wales [this message]
2020-09-28  2:31                 ` Samuel Wales

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.orgmode.org/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=CAJcAo8v+Qewmu5xVLRTLd+onFBVJoCvu4fJujMczwhK8X7CZng@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=samologist@gmail.com \
    --cc=emacs-orgmode@gnu.org \
    --cc=wyley.r@gmail.com \
    --subject='Re: newline or no newline at end of capture: expected behavior' \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link

Code repositories for project(s) associated with this inbox:

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).