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From: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
To: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>,
	Richard Lawrence <wyley.r@gmail.com>,
	emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: newline or no newline at end of capture: expected behavior
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 19:31:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJcAo8tz46eFdC2UX3gkV3f3uY1N7Fx_Gzj5NbTVBPJCNMX+JA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJcAo8v+Qewmu5xVLRTLd+onFBVJoCvu4fJujMczwhK8X7CZng@mail.gmail.com>

well, fwiw, i am still getting empty lines for capture buffers with a
final newline and empty capture buffers.  idk if htat helps by
iutself.  recent maint [new org version] emacs 25.

On 9/27/20, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... but i want to know what is expected.  it sopunds like org is
> intended to produce the desired result regardless.  so i will messa
> aroud more with my settings.
>
> i am limited in comput3er use so it might take a while for me to
> produce anything liek an mwe.  but i will check a few things.
>
> On 9/27/20, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi nicolas,
>>
>> thanks, that helps to know that org adds a newline.  this prevents the
>> failure mode of corrupted headers.
>>
>> just to confirm, do you mean capture /templates/ [potentially
>> verifiable by org] vs. /finalized buffers/?
>>
>> it sounds like you mean templates, because otherwise org just does
>> whatever is necessary to create desired lines?
>>
>> the user can mess with the buffer, so might leave a trailing newline
>> or not.  might copy from a file that ensures trailing newline, or one
>> that does not, etc.
>>
>> thus finalized buffers can contain anything.  or nothing.
>>
>> at present, possibly due to my own errors, without the options
>> specified explicitly, i get blank lines below the header if i finalize
>> the buffer with a trailing newline, and blank lines below the target
>> header if i capture with an empty buffer.  in maint.
>>
>>
>> On 9/27/20, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> thank you.  when i can, i will try explicitly setting all three to 0
>>>> to see if that prevents the unwanted newlines, in the buffer with
>>>> newline on last line, and empty buffer, cases.
>>>>
>>>> the docstring says empty-lines defaults to 0, which is what i want.
>>>> it does not say what the default for after and before are.
>>>>
>>>> it /sounds/ like capture is supposed to produce the desired number
>>>> [and position] of empty lines regardless of whether the buffer is
>>>> empty or there is or is not a trailing newline on the final line of
>>>> hte buffer.  is this more or less correct?
>>>
>>> I didn't read the whole thread, but a final newline is mandatory in all
>>> capture templates, independently on the number of desired blank lines.
>>> If such final newline is not provided, the capture mechanism will add
>>> one.
>>>
>>> The only exception is about empty capture templates, which are left
>>> as-is, i.e. a "final newline" is not added in that case.
>>>
>>> I don't know if that answers your question, but HTH.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> --
>>> Nicolas Goaziou
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> The Kafka Pandemic
>>
>> Please learn what misopathy is.
>> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html
>>
>
>
> --
> The Kafka Pandemic
>
> Please learn what misopathy is.
> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html
>


-- 
The Kafka Pandemic

Please learn what misopathy is.
https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html


      reply	other threads:[~2020-09-28  2:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-20  5:29 Samuel Wales
2020-09-20  5:36 ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-23  7:24   ` Bastien
2020-09-23 21:29     ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-23 21:30   ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-27  4:13     ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-27  7:16       ` Richard Lawrence
2020-09-27  7:42         ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-27 10:39           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-09-27 21:07             ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-27 21:08               ` Samuel Wales
2020-09-28  2:31                 ` Samuel Wales [this message]

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