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* Agenda, log view and inactive timestamps
@ 2019-04-03 10:38 Russell Adams
  2019-04-03 21:09 ` Samuel Wales
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Russell Adams @ 2019-04-03 10:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Minor bugreport.

I've noticed for a long time that the "view inactive timestamps" option in the
agenda view isn't persistent when navigating across time.

To replicate:

 - View agenda
 - 'l' to enable logbook mode
 - '[' to enable inactive timestamps
 - 'b' to go back to the prior timeperiod
 - inactive timestamps are gone and must be enabled again with '[', causing a
   rebuild of the view

I often run into this when I'm reviewing my time for billing. All of my todo
items are logged on state change so the logbook mode shows them. I also
frequently insert inactive timestamps while working on an issue. I have to see
the inactive stamps to understand what was being worked on at the
time. Currently I have to toggle the timestamps every time I change months.

Perhaps there are other customized agenda settings being lost when navigating
across time periods?

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* Re: Agenda, log view and inactive timestamps
  2019-04-03 10:38 Agenda, log view and inactive timestamps Russell Adams
@ 2019-04-03 21:09 ` Samuel Wales
  2019-04-03 21:12   ` Samuel Wales
  2019-04-03 21:30   ` Russell Adams
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Wales @ 2019-04-03 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

this is a defvar but very useful and imo could be defcustom.  i used
it for many years.

;; (setq org-agenda-include-inactive-timestamps t)

you have to coordinate with org-agenda-start-with-log-mode.

[ is unusual in that it combines with maniuplate query.

using the defvar fixes issues with kw state and maybe a few more
things.  but it might not show as you want [but to me it is good].

make sure you know what you are doing if you use org-agenda-skip-*.

this might be useful.

;; (defadvice org-agenda-log-mode
;;     (around toggle-off-inactive-also activate compile)
;;   (let ((org-agenda-include-inactive-timestamps t)
;;     ad-do-it))

there are probably several things taht need preserving.

text scale might still not be preserved unless that was fixed.
somebody kindly supplied code but idk if it was merged.

that is all i can provide atm.

On 4/3/19, Russell Adams <RLAdams@adamsinfoserv.com> wrote:
> Minor bugreport.
>
> I've noticed for a long time that the "view inactive timestamps" option in
> the
> agenda view isn't persistent when navigating across time.
>
> To replicate:
>
>  - View agenda
>  - 'l' to enable logbook mode
>  - '[' to enable inactive timestamps
>  - 'b' to go back to the prior timeperiod
>  - inactive timestamps are gone and must be enabled again with '[', causing
> a
>    rebuild of the view
>
> I often run into this when I'm reviewing my time for billing. All of my
> todo
> items are logged on state change so the logbook mode shows them. I also
> frequently insert inactive timestamps while working on an issue. I have to
> see
> the inactive stamps to understand what was being worked on at the
> time. Currently I have to toggle the timestamps every time I change months.
>
> Perhaps there are other customized agenda settings being lost when
> navigating
> across time periods?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Russell Adams                            RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com
>
> PGP Key ID:     0x1160DCB3           http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/
>
> Fingerprint:    1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F  66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3
>
>


-- 
The Kafka Pandemic

What is misopathy?
https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html

The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. And ANYBODY
can get it at any time.

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* Re: Agenda, log view and inactive timestamps
  2019-04-03 21:09 ` Samuel Wales
@ 2019-04-03 21:12   ` Samuel Wales
  2019-04-03 21:30   ` Russell Adams
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Wales @ 2019-04-03 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

pretty sure i have old emails on this list that go into various
related agenda anomalies.


On 4/3/19, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:
> this is a defvar but very useful and imo could be defcustom.  i used
> it for many years.
>
> ;; (setq org-agenda-include-inactive-timestamps t)
>
> you have to coordinate with org-agenda-start-with-log-mode.
>
> [ is unusual in that it combines with maniuplate query.
>
> using the defvar fixes issues with kw state and maybe a few more
> things.  but it might not show as you want [but to me it is good].
>
> make sure you know what you are doing if you use org-agenda-skip-*.
>
> this might be useful.
>
> ;; (defadvice org-agenda-log-mode
> ;;     (around toggle-off-inactive-also activate compile)
> ;;   (let ((org-agenda-include-inactive-timestamps t)
> ;;     ad-do-it))
>
> there are probably several things taht need preserving.
>
> text scale might still not be preserved unless that was fixed.
> somebody kindly supplied code but idk if it was merged.
>
> that is all i can provide atm.
>
> On 4/3/19, Russell Adams <RLAdams@adamsinfoserv.com> wrote:
>> Minor bugreport.
>>
>> I've noticed for a long time that the "view inactive timestamps" option
>> in
>> the
>> agenda view isn't persistent when navigating across time.
>>
>> To replicate:
>>
>>  - View agenda
>>  - 'l' to enable logbook mode
>>  - '[' to enable inactive timestamps
>>  - 'b' to go back to the prior timeperiod
>>  - inactive timestamps are gone and must be enabled again with '[',
>> causing
>> a
>>    rebuild of the view
>>
>> I often run into this when I'm reviewing my time for billing. All of my
>> todo
>> items are logged on state change so the logbook mode shows them. I also
>> frequently insert inactive timestamps while working on an issue. I have
>> to
>> see
>> the inactive stamps to understand what was being worked on at the
>> time. Currently I have to toggle the timestamps every time I change
>> months.
>>
>> Perhaps there are other customized agenda settings being lost when
>> navigating
>> across time periods?
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Russell Adams                            RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com
>>
>> PGP Key ID:     0x1160DCB3           http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/
>>
>> Fingerprint:    1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F  66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> The Kafka Pandemic
>
> What is misopathy?
> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html
>
> The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. And ANYBODY
> can get it at any time.
>


-- 
The Kafka Pandemic

What is misopathy?
https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html

The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. And ANYBODY
can get it at any time.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread

* Re: Agenda, log view and inactive timestamps
  2019-04-03 21:09 ` Samuel Wales
  2019-04-03 21:12   ` Samuel Wales
@ 2019-04-03 21:30   ` Russell Adams
  2019-04-03 21:38     ` Samuel Wales
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Russell Adams @ 2019-04-03 21:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Samuel,

I'm aware I can customize it further. Not every agenda needs inactive stamps or
log view. My comment was that the agent report doesn't preserve the settings
across time periods.

On Wed, Apr 03, 2019 at 02:09:50PM -0700, Samuel Wales wrote:
> this is a defvar but very useful and imo could be defcustom.  i used
> it for many years.
>
> ;; (setq org-agenda-include-inactive-timestamps t)
>
> you have to coordinate with org-agenda-start-with-log-mode.
>
> [ is unusual in that it combines with maniuplate query.
>
> using the defvar fixes issues with kw state and maybe a few more
> things.  but it might not show as you want [but to me it is good].
>
> make sure you know what you are doing if you use org-agenda-skip-*.
>
> this might be useful.
>
> ;; (defadvice org-agenda-log-mode
> ;;     (around toggle-off-inactive-also activate compile)
> ;;   (let ((org-agenda-include-inactive-timestamps t)
> ;;     ad-do-it))
>
> there are probably several things taht need preserving.
>
> text scale might still not be preserved unless that was fixed.
> somebody kindly supplied code but idk if it was merged.
>
> that is all i can provide atm.
>
> On 4/3/19, Russell Adams <RLAdams@adamsinfoserv.com> wrote:
> > Minor bugreport.
> >
> > I've noticed for a long time that the "view inactive timestamps" option in
> > the
> > agenda view isn't persistent when navigating across time.
> >
> > To replicate:
> >
> >  - View agenda
> >  - 'l' to enable logbook mode
> >  - '[' to enable inactive timestamps
> >  - 'b' to go back to the prior timeperiod
> >  - inactive timestamps are gone and must be enabled again with '[', causing
> > a
> >    rebuild of the view
> >
> > I often run into this when I'm reviewing my time for billing. All of my
> > todo
> > items are logged on state change so the logbook mode shows them. I also
> > frequently insert inactive timestamps while working on an issue. I have to
> > see
> > the inactive stamps to understand what was being worked on at the
> > time. Currently I have to toggle the timestamps every time I change months.
> >
> > Perhaps there are other customized agenda settings being lost when
> > navigating
> > across time periods?
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Russell Adams                            RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com
> >
> > PGP Key ID:     0x1160DCB3           http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/
> >
> > Fingerprint:    1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F  66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> The Kafka Pandemic
>
> What is misopathy?
> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html
>
> The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. And ANYBODY
> can get it at any time.
>


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Russell Adams                            RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com

PGP Key ID:     0x1160DCB3           http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/

Fingerprint:    1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F  66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3

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* Re: Agenda, log view and inactive timestamps
  2019-04-03 21:30   ` Russell Adams
@ 2019-04-03 21:38     ` Samuel Wales
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Wales @ 2019-04-03 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

apologies for misunderstanding your email.  yes, it would be good to
preserve more if possible.

On 4/3/19, Russell Adams <RLAdams@adamsinfoserv.com> wrote:
> Samuel,
>
> I'm aware I can customize it further. Not every agenda needs inactive stamps
> or
> log view. My comment was that the agent report doesn't preserve the
> settings
> across time periods.
>
> On Wed, Apr 03, 2019 at 02:09:50PM -0700, Samuel Wales wrote:
>> this is a defvar but very useful and imo could be defcustom.  i used
>> it for many years.
>>
>> ;; (setq org-agenda-include-inactive-timestamps t)
>>
>> you have to coordinate with org-agenda-start-with-log-mode.
>>
>> [ is unusual in that it combines with maniuplate query.
>>
>> using the defvar fixes issues with kw state and maybe a few more
>> things.  but it might not show as you want [but to me it is good].
>>
>> make sure you know what you are doing if you use org-agenda-skip-*.
>>
>> this might be useful.
>>
>> ;; (defadvice org-agenda-log-mode
>> ;;     (around toggle-off-inactive-also activate compile)
>> ;;   (let ((org-agenda-include-inactive-timestamps t)
>> ;;     ad-do-it))
>>
>> there are probably several things taht need preserving.
>>
>> text scale might still not be preserved unless that was fixed.
>> somebody kindly supplied code but idk if it was merged.
>>
>> that is all i can provide atm.
>>
>> On 4/3/19, Russell Adams <RLAdams@adamsinfoserv.com> wrote:
>> > Minor bugreport.
>> >
>> > I've noticed for a long time that the "view inactive timestamps" option
>> > in
>> > the
>> > agenda view isn't persistent when navigating across time.
>> >
>> > To replicate:
>> >
>> >  - View agenda
>> >  - 'l' to enable logbook mode
>> >  - '[' to enable inactive timestamps
>> >  - 'b' to go back to the prior timeperiod
>> >  - inactive timestamps are gone and must be enabled again with '[',
>> > causing
>> > a
>> >    rebuild of the view
>> >
>> > I often run into this when I'm reviewing my time for billing. All of my
>> > todo
>> > items are logged on state change so the logbook mode shows them. I also
>> > frequently insert inactive timestamps while working on an issue. I have
>> > to
>> > see
>> > the inactive stamps to understand what was being worked on at the
>> > time. Currently I have to toggle the timestamps every time I change
>> > months.
>> >
>> > Perhaps there are other customized agenda settings being lost when
>> > navigating
>> > across time periods?
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Russell Adams                            RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com
>> >
>> > PGP Key ID:     0x1160DCB3           http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/
>> >
>> > Fingerprint:    1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F  66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> The Kafka Pandemic
>>
>> What is misopathy?
>> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html
>>
>> The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. And ANYBODY
>> can get it at any time.
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Russell Adams                            RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com
>
> PGP Key ID:     0x1160DCB3           http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/
>
> Fingerprint:    1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F  66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3
>
>


-- 
The Kafka Pandemic

What is misopathy?
https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html

The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. And ANYBODY
can get it at any time.

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