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From: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
To: Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: desirability of boxquote-style snippets for helping new users
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 13:46:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJcAo8sZuCSzwmAN0piseO6yfehq=cTKrHgZQmNkytfrruUGZA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <gkp358$o99$2@ger.gmane.org>

On 1/15/09, Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com> wrote:
>> However, most prefix every line.  For example, boxquote by default uses
>> "|".
>> While an experienced user can figure out rectangle commands or write a
>> command to unpack the quote, new users and users who can't type much
>> might skip using the code to avoid having to do that.  And a very new
>> user could actually stick the whole thing in .emacs and wonder why it
>> doesn't work.  It adds to the burden of fixing a problem or meeting a
>> need in emacs without providing much benefit.  Even a few keystrokes
>> can do that.
>> Perhaps quotes of code, in all packages like boxquote, could by
>> default get fancy only on the lines precediing and following.
>> What do you think?
> ,----[ C-h f boxquote-unbox RET ]
> | boxquote-unbox is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `boxquote.el'.
> | (boxquote-unbox)
> |
> | Remove the boxquote that contains `point'.
> |
> | [back]
> `----

thanks for your suggestion.

as i said, i am suggesting that the prefixed lines should never be
prefixed in the first place.  i don't think it adds enough to outweigh
the extra keystrokes, rectangle, boxquote package, etc.  i don't think
all newcomers will know what to do.

imho, above and below quoting is a preferable default convention.
exceptions are few and can be optional.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-18 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-16  1:41 desirability of boxquote-style snippets for helping new users Samuel Wales
2009-01-16  2:13 ` Matthew Lundin
2009-01-16  2:32 ` Austin Frank
2009-01-16  3:34   ` Matthew Lundin
2009-01-16  4:41 ` Kevin Rodgers
2023-08-18 20:46   ` Samuel Wales [this message]
2009-01-16  9:56 ` Tassilo Horn

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