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From: Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>
To: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: desirability of boxquote-style snippets for helping new users
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:13:31 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2zlhshub8.fsf@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20524da70901151741n2ee14a3fta28b32b32d45b132@mail.gmail.com> (Samuel Wales's message of "Thu\, 15 Jan 2009 18\:41\:31 -0700")


Hi Samuel,

"Samuel Wales" <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> I have noticed more people using boxquote and similar ways of setting
> off code.  This makes it pretty and makes it stand out, both of which
> are good things.
>
> However, most prefix every line.  For example, boxquote by default uses "|".
>
> While an experienced user can figure out rectangle commands or write a
> command to unpack the quote, new users and users who can't type much
> might skip using the code to avoid having to do that.  And a very new
> user could actually stick the whole thing in .emacs and wonder why it
> doesn't work.  It adds to the burden of fixing a problem or meeting a
> need in emacs without providing much benefit.  Even a few keystrokes
> can do that.
>
> Perhaps quotes of code, in all packages like boxquote, could by
> default get fancy only on the lines precediing and following.
>
> What do you think?

I hadn't thought of that. I started using boxquote because I was
looking for an easier way to set off code. But if it's a nuisance or a
problem to new users, then I'd be happy to modify the variable
boxquote-side accordingly.

Something like this perhaps? 

,----
   (setq boxquote-side "   ")
`----

What do others think? Is this readable enough? 

The only downside is that the cursor has to be on the beginning or
ending line for commands such as boxquote-unbox or boxquote-yank or
boxquote-narrow-to-boxquote to work.

Best, 
Matt

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-16  2:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-16  1:41 Samuel Wales
2009-01-16  2:13 ` Matthew Lundin [this message]
2009-01-16  2:32 ` Austin Frank
2009-01-16  3:34   ` Matthew Lundin
2009-01-16  4:41 ` Kevin Rodgers
2009-01-16  9:56 ` Tassilo Horn

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