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From: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>
Cc: org-mode-email <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Subject: Re: [org-mode] make citation object available to org-cite-make-insert-processor SELECT-STYLE?
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 21:19:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ51ETrq0+T+KZq42oBaw3PCwNxOpU9XdBmUsW5WtWdRciWN0w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF-FPGOnNzgeWG17sdwtVDtY6qWdd2Q05mhUCsXy+EW_=-716A@mail.gmail.com>

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my solution to this (which I think worked well) is to select the keys, and
insert a default style, and then you run a command that updates the style.
that way you can get the keys that are in the citation easily from
org-element-context, and then I can make a preview for each style that is
consistent with the best guess for what the exporter is. (based on the
cite_export keyword, or a default choice).


On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 8:58 PM Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Nicolas,
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 3:28 PM Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > But to do that best and most consistently (next step is CSL, for
> > > example), I need the citation accessible from there, so I can run the
> > > export processors to generate the previews.
> > >
> > > Could we possibly tweak SELECT-STYLE to take one argument: citation?
> >
> > When you are inserting a whole new citation, what would be the value?
> > nil? What would you display then?
>
> The first iteration of the idea behind the request is this style selection
> UI:
>
>
> https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1134/126531061-40cf47ab-0c7f-42ac-8ddb-341e7ab70d4b.png
>
> So the idea is to present a preview of the style/variant output when
> selecting the style.
>
> Like:
>
> /          (Doe, 2019)
>
> ... or maybe even multiple columns:
>
> /          (Doe, 2019)       \citep
>
> I'm thinking the best way to build this UI is to iterate through
> org-cite-support-styles, and run at least the default export processes
> to create that preview annotation,
>
> As my thinking has evolved (and there's been a lot of discussion on
> this the past week), I see two options:
>
> 1. Generate the previews from the citations at point. This was the
> idea that promoted the suggestion here, since I can't get access to
> that citation data if I use org-cite-make-insert-processor.
>
> 2. Instead, have a standardized example record just for the preview.
> With this approach, the citation context isn't relevant.
>
> As to your question, do any style UIs currently allow you to select a
> style on a new citation before selecting the keys?
>
> Bruce
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-30  1:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-20 13:25 Bruce D'Arcus
2021-07-29 19:28 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-07-30  0:57   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-07-30  1:19     ` John Kitchin [this message]
2021-08-11 10:13     ` Nicolas Goaziou

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