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From: Ista Zahn <istazahn@gmail.com>
To: Andreas Kiermeier <andreas.kiermeier@gmail.com>
Cc: Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com>,
	emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	"Charles C. Berry" <ccberry@ucsd.edu>,
	Grant Rettke <gcr@wisdomandwonder.com>
Subject: Re: exporting documents w/ babel results w/o evaluating babel blocks
Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 10:32:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+vqiLG553=kJzUvRroGFJApq2t7J65S6Psr-BAau9MN8E54Lg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN7vk5RhueZ8Mzz-A9Nh5=K5GFBKyU9CBgy1BPMD_7NTGtFXQQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 6:17 AM, Andreas Kiermeier
<andreas.kiermeier@gmail.com> wrote:
> I second that.
> I like exporting everything to LaTeX without having to re-run all the code,
> which in many cases can add considerable time.

Which you can still do, I guess by

(setq org-babel-default-header-args
      (cons '(:eval . "never-export")
   (assq-delete-all :noweb org-babel-default-header-args)))

instead of the old way

(setq org-export-babel-evaluate nil)

I'm not saying this is good or right. IMO the old behavior of
org-export-babel-evaluate made sense and was useful; the new behavior
is surprising and I have a hard time seeing how it is useful. One can
argue (as Chuck has) that the new behavior is fine sense we have
another way of achieving the desired results; that may be, but I have
yet to see an explanation of why the new behavior is desirable.

It this change is not going to be reversed than the doc string for
org-export-babel-evaluate needs to be updated, and something should go
in the NEWS file warning people (like me) who have been relying on the
old behavior.

Best,
Ista

> Cheers,
> Andreas
>
> On 24 May 2016 at 11:04, Grant Rettke <gcr@wisdomandwonder.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Charles C. Berry <ccberry@ucsd.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > TL;DR: Org babel headers give excellent control over what gets run,
>> > when it gets run, and how. Users should use them.
>>
>> Definitely!
>>
>> > Don't reset `org-export-babel-evaluate'.
>>
>> Why not?
>>
>> It can be nice to disable org-export-babel-evaluate by setting it to
>> `nil'.
>>
>> That way you separate your workflow into two distinct steps: one for
>> execution and one for weaving.
>>
>> It would be fun to "see" everyone's Org-Mode workflows; I bet there
>> are a lot of nice approaches.
>>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-24 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-20 15:57 exporting documents w/ babel results w/o evaluating babel blocks Ken Mankoff
2016-05-20 16:14 ` John Hendy
2016-05-20 16:45   ` Ken Mankoff
2016-05-20 17:25     ` John Hendy
     [not found]   ` <878addc2b6b14ce99e907921f0985d24@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2016-05-20 16:59     ` Eric S Fraga
2016-05-20 17:06       ` Ken Mankoff
     [not found]       ` <b29fde01938940d3b115abd9b257dc57@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2016-05-20 17:11         ` Eric S Fraga
2016-05-20 17:23           ` John Hendy
2016-05-20 17:38             ` Ken Mankoff
2016-05-20 17:32           ` Ken Mankoff
2016-05-20 18:46             ` Nick Dokos
2016-05-20 21:20               ` Charles C. Berry
2016-05-21 19:01                 ` Nick Dokos
2016-05-22 19:58                 ` John Hendy
2016-05-22 21:52                   ` Charles C. Berry
2016-05-23 18:27                     ` Nick Dokos
2016-05-23 18:34                       ` John Hendy
2016-05-23 20:08                       ` Charles C. Berry
2016-05-24  1:34                     ` Grant Rettke
2016-05-24 10:17                       ` Andreas Kiermeier
2016-05-24 14:32                         ` Ista Zahn [this message]
2016-05-24 15:09                           ` Anthony Cowley
2016-05-24 15:48                           ` Charles C. Berry
2016-05-24 15:53                             ` Charles C. Berry
2016-05-20 23:06               ` Ken Mankoff
     [not found] <0e207e1cbcc44453b29eea98ca5ebe05@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2016-05-20 16:13 ` Eric S Fraga

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