* Org Mode Research
@ 2017-01-07 18:25 Ted Wiles
2017-01-07 19:39 ` Thomas S. Dye
2017-01-07 20:43 ` Colin Baxter
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From: Ted Wiles @ 2017-01-07 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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Org Moders,
I'm doing some research on org mode usage and would love to hear your
perspective. Here's the survey link:
https://goo.gl/forms/9I0uL3Er2TuEszfH3
If I get enough responses, I'll be happy to post the results online for all
to see!
Best Regards,
Ted
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* Re: Org Mode Research
2017-01-07 18:25 Org Mode Research Ted Wiles
@ 2017-01-07 19:39 ` Thomas S. Dye
2017-01-07 19:54 ` John Hendy
2017-01-07 20:43 ` Colin Baxter
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From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2017-01-07 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ted Wiles; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
FYI, the survey appears to be market research for non-GPL vaporware.
Ted Wiles writes:
> Org Moders,
>
> I'm doing some research on org mode usage and would love to hear your
> perspective. Here's the survey link:
>
> https://goo.gl/forms/9I0uL3Er2TuEszfH3
All the best,
Tom
--
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com
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* Re: Org Mode Research
2017-01-07 19:39 ` Thomas S. Dye
@ 2017-01-07 19:54 ` John Hendy
2017-01-07 20:16 ` Kaushal Modi
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From: John Hendy @ 2017-01-07 19:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas S. Dye; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Ted Wiles
On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
> FYI, the survey appears to be market research for non-GPL vaporware.
Why the assumption of non-GPL? Just because web-based Org is hinted at
and leading/feature hunting questions are a common trait of someone
not wanting to reveal a commercial project? Theoretically it could
just be a hobby project being looked into, right? Just curious.
John
>
> Ted Wiles writes:
>
>> Org Moders,
>>
>> I'm doing some research on org mode usage and would love to hear your
>> perspective. Here's the survey link:
>>
>> https://goo.gl/forms/9I0uL3Er2TuEszfH3
>
> All the best,
> Tom
>
> --
> Thomas S. Dye
> http://www.tsdye.com
>
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* Re: Org Mode Research
2017-01-07 19:54 ` John Hendy
@ 2017-01-07 20:16 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-07 21:19 ` Thomas S. Dye
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From: Kaushal Modi @ 2017-01-07 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John Hendy, Thomas S. Dye; +Cc: emacs-org list, Ted Wiles
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I find that project interesting, and something that could bridge the gap
between emacs and non-emacs org mode users.
What suggests that this is non-GPL and 'vaporware'?
@Ted: It would be nice if this can be developed as part of GNU org-mode.
On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
> > FYI, the survey appears to be market research for non-GPL vaporware.
>
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Kaushal Modi
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* Re: Org Mode Research
2017-01-07 18:25 Org Mode Research Ted Wiles
2017-01-07 19:39 ` Thomas S. Dye
@ 2017-01-07 20:43 ` Colin Baxter
2017-01-07 21:28 ` Ted Wiles
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From: Colin Baxter @ 2017-01-07 20:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ted Wiles; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hello
On Sat, Jan 07 2017, Ted Wiles wrote:
> Org Moders,
>
> I'm doing some research on org mode usage and would love to hear your perspective. Here's the
> survey link:
>
> https://goo.gl/forms/9I0uL3Er2TuEszfH3
>
> If I get enough responses, I'll be happy to post the results online for all to see!
>
> Best Regards,
> Ted
I would want to see much more information about the motive and people
behind the Survey before I would take part. Sorry.
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* Re: Org Mode Research
2017-01-07 20:16 ` Kaushal Modi
@ 2017-01-07 21:19 ` Thomas S. Dye
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From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2017-01-07 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kaushal Modi; +Cc: emacs-org list, Ted Wiles
Aloha Kaushal Modi,
Kaushal Modi writes:
> I find that project interesting, and something that could bridge the gap
> between emacs and non-emacs org mode users.
>
> What suggests that this is non-GPL and 'vaporware'?
No mention of GPL, still looking at which features of Org mode to be
implemented.
Ted can correct me if my impression is wrong.
I agree with you the project is interesting.
All the best,
Tom
--
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com
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* Re: Org Mode Research
2017-01-07 20:43 ` Colin Baxter
@ 2017-01-07 21:28 ` Ted Wiles
2017-01-07 23:06 ` Thomas S. Dye
2017-01-07 23:47 ` John Hendy
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From: Ted Wiles @ 2017-01-07 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Colin Baxter; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
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Thanks all!
For context, I just started implementing org-mode workplanning at my job
(personal user since 2007) and it's increased my productivity 10x. As I
manage others I was curious about hearing about how others use org-mode in
a team setting. While I was at it, I thought that it would be helpful and
interesting to get a gut-check on the basic idea I was thinking of
implementing to collaborate with my team.
Some preliminary findings of interest:
- Tags are unpopular, only 56% of people use them. Especially surprising as
70% use source-code blocks.
- Largest barrier to further org mode usage is a lack of emacs expertise.
Not really a surprise here.
- 75% of people put their org-mode files under git version control.
- We are all big promoters of using org-mode with the people we work with,
and highly skeptical of their ability and desire to realize these benefits
:)
- mobile and calendar integration have come up as major pains multiple
times in free responses
I am hoping to condense findings into a pithy summary and post on github
(or worg, although I've never figured out how to do that easily) so that
everyone can see.
I also think the term "market research" significantly overestimates my
ability / desire to execute on this :) I get the concern on GPL vs.
non-GPL, I also really like org mode as it fundamentally gives me control
over my own data, but given where this is right now (a google forms survey)
I think it's kind of a moot discussion.
And yes, I know that the survey isn't very good, and that there are typos,
and that certain things could have been asked better! I have made some
revisions incorporating some of these comments.
Thanks again,
Ted
On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> wrote:
> Hello
>
> On Sat, Jan 07 2017, Ted Wiles wrote:
>
> > Org Moders,
> >
> > I'm doing some research on org mode usage and would love to hear your
> perspective. Here's the
> > survey link:
> >
> > https://goo.gl/forms/9I0uL3Er2TuEszfH3
> >
> > If I get enough responses, I'll be happy to post the results online for
> all to see!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Ted
>
> I would want to see much more information about the motive and people
> behind the Survey before I would take part. Sorry.
>
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* Re: Org Mode Research
2017-01-07 21:28 ` Ted Wiles
@ 2017-01-07 23:06 ` Thomas S. Dye
2017-01-07 23:47 ` John Hendy
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From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2017-01-07 23:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ted Wiles; +Cc: Colin Baxter, emacs-orgmode
Aloha Ted,
Ted Wiles writes:
> I also think the term "market research" significantly overestimates my
> ability / desire to execute on this :)
I'm curious why you chose to introduce your survey as "I'm doing
a market research project on org mode users ..." if you think the term
overestimates your ability and/or desire to execute?
All the best,
Tom
--
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com
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* Re: Org Mode Research
2017-01-07 21:28 ` Ted Wiles
2017-01-07 23:06 ` Thomas S. Dye
@ 2017-01-07 23:47 ` John Hendy
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From: John Hendy @ 2017-01-07 23:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ted Wiles; +Cc: Colin Baxter, emacs-orgmode
On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Ted Wiles <theodore.wiles@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks all!
[snip]
> I get the concern on GPL vs. non-GPL,
> I also really like org mode as it fundamentally gives me control over my own
> data, but given where this is right now (a google forms survey) I think it's
> kind of a moot discussion.
But which is it; you get the concern but don't answer either way? I
take this to imply that if this *does* bloom into something it will be
non-GPL?
John
>
> Thanks again,
> Ted
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 07 2017, Ted Wiles wrote:
>>
>> > Org Moders,
>> >
>> > I'm doing some research on org mode usage and would love to hear your
>> > perspective. Here's the
>> > survey link:
>> >
>> > https://goo.gl/forms/9I0uL3Er2TuEszfH3
>> >
>> > If I get enough responses, I'll be happy to post the results online for
>> > all to see!
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Ted
>>
>> I would want to see much more information about the motive and people
>> behind the Survey before I would take part. Sorry.
>
>
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