* Question mark not supported in structured templates?
@ 2019-10-29 7:57 Vladimir Nikishkin
2019-10-29 8:23 ` Fraga, Eric
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From: Vladimir Nikishkin @ 2019-10-29 7:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hello, everyone.
I recently updated to org 9.2 from org-melpa, and I have the following issue:
I use org with org-babel to write a book with many examples and illustrations.
I use ob-plantuml and ob-scheme in particular.
The problem is that for ob-plantuml I need the value of point be right
after the :file header parameter, because plantuml always requires a
file name.
For scheme, however, there is no need to write a file name, there are no files.
Is there no way to specify where to put the point in the new version of org?
--
Yours sincerely, Vladimir Nikishkin
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* Re: Question mark not supported in structured templates?
2019-10-29 7:57 Question mark not supported in structured templates? Vladimir Nikishkin
@ 2019-10-29 8:23 ` Fraga, Eric
2019-10-29 8:59 ` Vladimir Nikishkin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Fraga, Eric @ 2019-10-29 8:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vladimir Nikishkin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
On Tuesday, 29 Oct 2019 at 15:57, Vladimir Nikishkin wrote:
> The problem is that for ob-plantuml I need the value of point be right
> after the :file header parameter, because plantuml always requires a
> file name.
I don't see this in my configuration. But it could be that I do not
understand what you are saying. Maybe explain a bit further and/or give
a small example?
--
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, Org release_9.2.6-552-g8c5a78
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* Re: Question mark not supported in structured templates?
2019-10-29 8:23 ` Fraga, Eric
@ 2019-10-29 8:59 ` Vladimir Nikishkin
2019-10-29 16:42 ` Berry, Charles
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From: Vladimir Nikishkin @ 2019-10-29 8:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
In the version 8 of org-mode you could indicate where to put the point
after the template is expanded. In the template
(list "p" "#begin_src plantuml :file ? :export both \n#end_src"),
after the template is expanded, the point would be located after
:file, whereas in the template (list "SO" "#begin_src scheme :export
both \n?\n#end_src") the point would be located on the frist line
after the header.
At the moment, `org-insert-structure-template' just inserts the
question mark verbatim. I would consider this a regression, but maybe
there is some replacement mechanism?
вт, 29 окт. 2019 г. в 16:23, Fraga, Eric <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk>:
>
> On Tuesday, 29 Oct 2019 at 15:57, Vladimir Nikishkin wrote:
> > The problem is that for ob-plantuml I need the value of point be right
> > after the :file header parameter, because plantuml always requires a
> > file name.
>
> I don't see this in my configuration. But it could be that I do not
> understand what you are saying. Maybe explain a bit further and/or give
> a small example?
>
> --
> Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, Org release_9.2.6-552-g8c5a78
--
Yours sincerely, Vladimir Nikishkin
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* Re: Question mark not supported in structured templates?
2019-10-29 8:59 ` Vladimir Nikishkin
@ 2019-10-29 16:42 ` Berry, Charles
2019-10-30 2:23 ` Vladimir Nikishkin
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Berry, Charles @ 2019-10-29 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vladimir Nikishkin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
`org-tempo' is the replacement. It is mentioned in the docstring for `org-structure-template-alist'.
Here is what I have in my `emacs-init.org' file:
(The letter `p' denotes where point should land. `n' is a newline. See the docstring for `tempo-define-template' for more details.)
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(require 'org-tempo)
(tempo-define-template "org-src_R"
'("#+begin_src R" p n
n "#+end_src" )
"<R" "Insert R block" 'org-tempo-tags)
(tempo-define-template "org-src-named-R"
'("#+name: " p n
"#+begin_src R" n
n "#+end_src" )
"<r" "Insert Named R block" 'org-tempo-tags)
(tempo-define-template "org-eqnarray"
'("\\begin{eqnarray} " '> n p
n "\\end{eqnarray}" >)
"<Y" "Insert LaTeX eqnarray" 'org-tempo-tags)
(tempo-define-template "org-equation"
'("\\begin{equation} " '> n p
n "\\end{equation}" >)
"<Q" "Insert LaTeX equation" 'org-tempo-tags)
(tempo-define-template "org-displaymath"
'("# begin math" n
"\\[" p n
"\\]" n
"# end math" n)
"<m" "Insert \\[ \\]" 'org-tempo-tags)
#+end_src
HTH,
Chuck
> On Oct 29, 2019, at 1:59 AM, Vladimir Nikishkin <lockywolf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In the version 8 of org-mode you could indicate where to put the point
> after the template is expanded. In the template
> (list "p" "#begin_src plantuml :file ? :export both \n#end_src"),
> after the template is expanded, the point would be located after
> :file, whereas in the template (list "SO" "#begin_src scheme :export
> both \n?\n#end_src") the point would be located on the frist line
> after the header.
>
> At the moment, `org-insert-structure-template' just inserts the
> question mark verbatim. I would consider this a regression, but maybe
> there is some replacement mechanism?
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2019-10-29 16:42 ` Berry, Charles
@ 2019-10-30 2:23 ` Vladimir Nikishkin
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir Nikishkin @ 2019-10-30 2:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Berry, Charles; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
What is the canonical difference between org-insert-structure-template
and org-tempo then?
I think, emacs skeleton libraries (M-x info-display-manual RET
autotype RET) support placing the point (with a "_" marker)
ср, 30 окт. 2019 г. в 00:43, Berry, Charles <ccberry@ucsd.edu>:
>
> `org-tempo' is the replacement. It is mentioned in the docstring for `org-structure-template-alist'.
>
> Here is what I have in my `emacs-init.org' file:
>
> (The letter `p' denotes where point should land. `n' is a newline. See the docstring for `tempo-define-template' for more details.)
>
>
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>
> (require 'org-tempo)
>
>
> (tempo-define-template "org-src_R"
> '("#+begin_src R" p n
> n "#+end_src" )
> "<R" "Insert R block" 'org-tempo-tags)
>
> (tempo-define-template "org-src-named-R"
> '("#+name: " p n
> "#+begin_src R" n
> n "#+end_src" )
> "<r" "Insert Named R block" 'org-tempo-tags)
>
> (tempo-define-template "org-eqnarray"
> '("\\begin{eqnarray} " '> n p
> n "\\end{eqnarray}" >)
> "<Y" "Insert LaTeX eqnarray" 'org-tempo-tags)
>
> (tempo-define-template "org-equation"
> '("\\begin{equation} " '> n p
> n "\\end{equation}" >)
> "<Q" "Insert LaTeX equation" 'org-tempo-tags)
>
> (tempo-define-template "org-displaymath"
> '("# begin math" n
> "\\[" p n
> "\\]" n
> "# end math" n)
> "<m" "Insert \\[ \\]" 'org-tempo-tags)
>
> #+end_src
>
> HTH,
>
> Chuck
>
>
> > On Oct 29, 2019, at 1:59 AM, Vladimir Nikishkin <lockywolf@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > In the version 8 of org-mode you could indicate where to put the point
> > after the template is expanded. In the template
> > (list "p" "#begin_src plantuml :file ? :export both \n#end_src"),
> > after the template is expanded, the point would be located after
> > :file, whereas in the template (list "SO" "#begin_src scheme :export
> > both \n?\n#end_src") the point would be located on the frist line
> > after the header.
> >
> > At the moment, `org-insert-structure-template' just inserts the
> > question mark verbatim. I would consider this a regression, but maybe
> > there is some replacement mechanism?
>
>
--
Yours sincerely, Vladimir Nikishkin
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