* org-reload (Re: some kind of bisect tool)
@ 2011-05-25 22:38 Samuel Wales
2011-05-26 2:04 ` Bernt Hansen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Wales @ 2011-05-25 22:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Bernt,
On 2011-05-25, Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> wrote:
> Trying to reuse the current session with an org-reload probably won't
> work well for the general case.
Perhaps it will work for the cases for which org-reload was designed.
>> By the way, I am having trouble loading source with c-u c-c c-x ! . I
>> notice that some commands, such as m-s-right, are still compiled.
>
> I have no idea what is going on here.
Org-reload is broken for me and so is loading of *.el. I think
org-reload should error when it cannot load a file, and ideally all
files would be loadable in any order. Don't know if this is possible.
If org-reload has no use, perhaps org-reload should be deleted? But
a restart of Emacs is very slow for every git checkout.
I have to give up on computer use now as I cannot continue.
Thanks.
Samuel
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* Re: org-reload (Re: some kind of bisect tool)
2011-05-25 22:38 org-reload (Re: some kind of bisect tool) Samuel Wales
@ 2011-05-26 2:04 ` Bernt Hansen
2011-05-26 6:30 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2011-05-26 2:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Samuel Wales; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
> On 2011-05-25, Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> wrote:
>> Trying to reuse the current session with an org-reload probably won't
>> work well for the general case.
>
> Perhaps it will work for the cases for which org-reload was designed.
>
>>> By the way, I am having trouble loading source with c-u c-c c-x ! . I
>>> notice that some commands, such as m-s-right, are still compiled.
>>
>> I have no idea what is going on here.
>
> Org-reload is broken for me and so is loading of *.el. I think
> org-reload should error when it cannot load a file, and ideally all
> files would be loadable in any order. Don't know if this is possible.
> If org-reload has no use, perhaps org-reload should be deleted? But
> a restart of Emacs is very slow for every git checkout.
I use M-x org-reload regularly when upgrading org-mode (instead of
restarting Emacs).
org-reload is great for moving forwards in the org-mode git history (to
newer commits) without restarting Emacs. It's when you go backwards
(removing new functionality and definitions) that things get a bit
hairy since your current emacs lisp environment will have a mixture of
new and old definitions.
org-reload now just gets a list of files and loads them sequentially.
The function could probably be enhanced to check the status of the load
function call and doing something useful when it fails -- but that needs
to be thought out. Carsten originally wrote this function and he may
have more thoughts about this.
Regards,
Bernt
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* Re: org-reload (Re: some kind of bisect tool)
2011-05-26 2:04 ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2011-05-26 6:30 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2011-05-26 6:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On 26.5.2011, at 04:04, Bernt Hansen wrote:
> Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 2011-05-25, Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca> wrote:
>>> Trying to reuse the current session with an org-reload probably won't
>>> work well for the general case.
>>
>> Perhaps it will work for the cases for which org-reload was designed.
>>
>>>> By the way, I am having trouble loading source with c-u c-c c-x ! . I
>>>> notice that some commands, such as m-s-right, are still compiled.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what is going on here.
>>
>> Org-reload is broken for me and so is loading of *.el. I think
>> org-reload should error when it cannot load a file, and ideally all
>> files would be loadable in any order. Don't know if this is possible.
>> If org-reload has no use, perhaps org-reload should be deleted? But
>> a restart of Emacs is very slow for every git checkout.
>
> I use M-x org-reload regularly when upgrading org-mode (instead of
> restarting Emacs).
>
> org-reload is great for moving forwards in the org-mode git history (to
> newer commits) without restarting Emacs. It's when you go backwards
> (removing new functionality and definitions) that things get a bit
> hairy since your current emacs lisp environment will have a mixture of
> new and old definitions.
>
> org-reload now just gets a list of files and loads them sequentially.
>
> The function could probably be enhanced to check the status of the load
> function call and doing something useful when it fails -- but that needs
> to be thought out. Carsten originally wrote this function and he may
> have more thoughts about this.
org-reload only reloads files that already have been
loaded. So if you have not loaded org-crypt yet, it
will not be loaded again. I am not sure I remember
why I did it like this, probably to solve problems
with the sequence of loading.
Org-reload is certainly not perfect. Using a minimal Emacs
setup and just restart Emacs for the bisecting is probably best.
- Carsten
Does anyone know if there is a way to
>
> Regards,
> Bernt
>
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