From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de>
Cc: Jeff Horn <jrhorn424@gmail.com>,
mail@christianmoe.com, Dan Davison <dandavison7@gmail.com>,
Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca>,
Org-mode ml <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
Baoqiu Cui <cbaoqiu@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Aligning Columns in HTML Export Tables
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:12:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <B448DFFA-C758-45C3-B334-A4568F596C00@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lj5mc5pm.fsf@gmx.de>
OK, I think this change is now done. Thank you all for sharing your
expertise!
- Carsten
On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:
> Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com> writes:
>> Maybe someone with a browser where colgroups actually do work
>> (Opera!) can check
>>
>> 1. if they only work with the align attribute, and not with CSS, and
>>
>> 2. whether they still work (take precedence) now that the
>> individual cells are
>> aligned with CSS for their class.
>
> They _never_ took precedence, as soon as I used a style like this:
>
> /* My default for all td elements */
> td { text-align:left; }
>
> The `td' style will alway be a "better" CSS-match than the col's style
> or class attribute, even then the col's align attribute. It's even
> the
> expected behaviour according to CSS standards since that what's the
> `C'
> in CSS means. I have to remove my favourite default style for td
> elements from my stylesheet to make that work in Opera, too. In
> current
> FF it does not work at all.
>
> Here's another test:
>
> CSS:
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> col.right { text-align:right;vertical-align:top;background-
> color:red; }
> col.left { text-align:left;vertical-align:top;background-
> color:green; }
> col.center { text-align:center;vertical-align:top;background-
> color:blue; }
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
>
>
> A table:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> <table border="0" summary="">
> <caption></caption>
> <colgroup><col class="left" /><col class="center" /><col
> class="right" />
> </colgroup>
> <thead>
> <tr><th>A</th><th>B</th><th>C</th></tr>
> </thead>
> <tbody>
> <tr><td>1</td><td >bar</td><td>text</td></tr>
> <tr><td>12</td><td >test</td><td>300</td></tr>
> <tr><td>9</td><td >foo</td><td>4</td></tr>
> </tbody>
> </table>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
>
> The only `style' that works that way is the `background-color'. In
> Opera and FF at least.
>
> Means, the `class' attribute in <col> elements doesn't work very well
> (but '<col class="odd" /><col class="even" />' might make sense with
> alternating colors)..
>
> Both, 'align' and the 'style' attribute will be overwritten by a
> default
> style for a <td> element in the users stylesheet (some prefere center,
> some left alignment as the default).
>
>
>
> It's common practice to have `style' or `class' attribute in td
> elements. That's what classes are for in the end. Make HTML elements
> members of a group with certain properties.
>
> Why not jut go with it?
>
>
> Look at `magento's code, Drupal, whatever. They even use more those
> usefull classes, e.g. `first' and `last' for the first and last
> elements
> of lists. HTML elements without classes are hard to find. The reason
> is, that HTML is just a document structure. Classes (and IDs) make
> those elements live.
>
> "first" "last" "right" "left" "content" "footnote" "menu" "comment"
> "big" "small" "light" "dark" "pro" "contra" - classes make the
> difference.
>
> Plus 'class="right"' is easy to change in central place left
> entrirely to the user: the stylesheet.
>
> XML is not meant to avoid clutter. And if it was, something went
> terribly wrong, I guess :)
>
>
>
> Sebastian
prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-26 6:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-20 16:42 Aligning Columns in HTML Export Tables Jeff Horn
2010-10-20 17:16 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-10-20 19:04 ` Christian Moe
2010-10-20 20:11 ` Jeff Horn
2010-10-21 0:25 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-10-21 7:36 ` Christian Moe
2010-10-21 7:46 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-21 13:04 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-10-21 13:25 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-10-22 7:32 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-22 11:20 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-10-22 11:27 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-22 13:59 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-10-22 15:41 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-22 19:30 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-10-23 5:42 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-23 19:03 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-10-22 19:37 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-10-23 5:53 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-23 19:20 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-10-23 19:28 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-10-25 6:48 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-25 9:02 ` Giovanni Ridolfi
2010-10-25 9:09 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-25 4:36 ` Baoqiu Cui
2010-10-25 8:51 ` Christian Moe
2010-10-25 9:08 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-25 13:13 ` Christian Moe
2010-10-25 13:22 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-25 14:55 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-10-25 20:41 ` Christian Moe
2010-10-25 21:52 ` Baoqiu Cui
2010-10-26 5:11 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-26 16:03 ` Baoqiu Cui
2010-10-25 13:43 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-25 20:04 ` Christian Moe
2010-10-25 21:39 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-10-26 5:12 ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
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